What was life like before prog?

^I don't know how you read "poor Pedro" into what I wrote. And I wasn't asking you to tell him that it was a great post. I just don't get what is so awesome about ridiculing it in a way that would make just about anything come across as stupid. Its no big deal. You do as you please. Enjoy your drinking game. 

Prog was destined to show up.

With pleasure!   Really make me happy with more continued killer lysergic posting brilliance and I'll see about getting the famed Bulgarian bartending duo from the bar across the street here to drop in and they'll curl your toes as well as help trash your liver 

I think what people have to realize is that prog didn't just come out of nowhere. It was born in a climate of experimentation and there was a lot of stuff that led up to prog especially psychedelic rock. The psychedelic bands made prog possible in my opinion. If you listen to stuff like the Doors, Iron Butterfly, Love, even Frank Zappa and the Beatles there was plenty of groundwork laid for prog to follow.

Well, there were a lot of them. I suppose if you mention FFH then you could also mention Silver Apples, the United States of America, the Zodiac, Whitenoise etc. I wasn't trying to be complete with the few bands I listed. Since you listed what was an early example of a rock band with electronics I thought I would add a few more here. :) I don't want this to go on and on because we could be here all day. I do think it's fair to say however, that these types of psych bands were ahead of the curve as far as technology goes which led to more experimentation which planted the seeds for prog in some ways. However, I don't think for the most part the synthesizer was a prerequesite for early prog. There's none on the KC debut and most early seventies English bands didn't seem to get one until 72 or so(not counting a few obvious examples like ELP, GG and Yes). Even Genesis didn't have a synth on an album until 1973!

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - August 27 2017 at 22:05

Understood, was posting on my phone and was going to write more, but didn't have the time so I posted anyway.

Off on many tangents:

By the way, I love Silver Apples, the United States of America, the Zodiac and White Noise, and Terry Riley and Pierre Henry were doing great stuff around that time (if not setting the groundwork for Prog). One also has artists like David Axelrod that I think had some of the qualities that we later find in Prog.



Definitely psych was important to the formation of Prog, and bands such as Cream and Jimi Hendrix. Jazzy, and jammy rock bands and.... I actually have always felt the Cream could be considered proto-prog, but that view seems peculiar to most. Also jazzy ones such as early Soft Machine, Pink Floyd, acts such as The Moody Blues, Procol Harum, and Family.

I actually don't have strong feeling for when Prog started. There was obviously a progression towards it, but when did it truly get there? Many say with In the Court of the Crimson King, but Amon Duul II's Phallus Dei, Soft Machine's second, Colosseum's Valentyne Suite, Can's Monster Movie, Frank Zappa's Hot Rats, and lots of others came out around the same time, but aside from knowing which month each came out, which I don't I do suppose that the King Crimson has the most traditional Prog characteristics and seems to be the one people like to say really got the movement started.

I tend to think that there was no firm start, which is why people still debate it to this day.   Of course it also depends upon how loosely you define Prog.

Anyway that aside, there was so much great music in the 60s Prog, Prog Related or not.

Edited by Logan - August 28 2017 at 01:08

Electrons and protons and crap.

Logan wrote: Understood, was posting on my phone and was going to write more, but didn't have the time so I posted anyway. Off on many tangents: By the way, I love Silver Apples, the United States of America, the Zodiac and White Noise, and Terry Riley and Pierre Henry were doing great stuff around that time (if not setting the groundwork for Prog). One also has artists like David Axelrod that I think had some of the qualities that we later find in Prog. Definitely psych was important to the formation of Prog, and bands such as Cream and Jimi Hendrix. Jazzy, and jammy rock bands and.... I actually have always felt the Cream could be considered proto-prog, but that view seems peculiar to most. Also jazzy ones such as early Soft Machine, Pink Floyd, acts such as The Moody Blues, Procol Harum, and Family. I actually don't have strong feeling for when Prog started. There was obviously a progression towards it, but when did it truly get there? Many say with In the Court of the Crimson King, but Amon Duul II's Phallus Dei, Soft Machine's second, Colosseum's Valentyne Suite, Can's Monster Movie, Frank Zappa's Hot Rats, and lots of others came out around the same time, but aside from knowing which month each came out, which I don't I do suppose that the King Crimson has the most traditional Prog characteristics and seems to be the one people like to say really got the movement started. I tend to think that there was no firm start, which is why people still debate it to this day.   Of course it also depends upon how loosely you define Prog. Anyway that aside, there was so much great music in the 60s Prog, Prog Related or not.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - August 28 2017 at 10:45

Answer: Not worth living.