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Mormegil 
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 Posted: October 02 2017 at 07:53 |
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Genesis - barely. Both sound so dated.
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: October 02 2017 at 09:06 |
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^Yeah, I think it's the subtle new wave influence from that time period. I think new wave music and even the early neo prog sounds a bit dated these days also.
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Argo2112
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Posted: October 02 2017 at 10:11 |
It's interesting really, both band were trying to morph their sound / style to be more commercial viable and had success doing it. A lot of prog puritans dismiss these albums because there was no Heart of the Sunrise or Firth of Fifth on them but I think both albums had some great moments.
(I voted 90125 BTW)
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Posted: October 02 2017 at 10:25 |
Clearly Shapes the A-side is rather good, the b-side is just as bad as the entirety of 90125
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Posted: October 02 2017 at 10:30 |
blargh.
I guess Yes, but really both are a pass.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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miamiscot
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Posted: October 02 2017 at 14:55 |
For what is was, 90125 was a great album.
Genesis - not so much.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: October 02 2017 at 20:26 |
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Both crappy albums. But 90215 is at least stylish crap.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Dellinger
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Posted: October 02 2017 at 20:37 |
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I do like Yes better than Genesis, and I do love Owner of a Lonely Heart (plus Hold on and Cinema)... and I haven't heard the self-titled Genesis album yet... still, I sort of think I might give my vote to it. I do have heard "Mama" and the "Home by the Sea" duo of songs live, and I do like them even better than Owner of a Lonely Heart, so... (actually, a good poll for me would be "Home by the Sea" vs "Endless Dream", the best prog pieces by each band from their pop periods).
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Barbu
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Posted: October 02 2017 at 21:06 |
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Yes
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Rednight
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Posted: October 03 2017 at 16:38 |
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Hell, Illegal Alien is better than anything off of that so-called Yes offering. I mean the Yes is that pukey.
Edited by Rednight - October 03 2017 at 16:39
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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YESESIS
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Posted: October 03 2017 at 16:52 |
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I think both albums are very good and underrated, but the Genesis one is more so.. imo.
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Posted: October 04 2017 at 09:06 |
 Rednight wrote:
Hell, Illegal Alien is better than anything off of that so-called Yes offering. I mean the Yes is that pukey. |
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Rednight
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Posted: October 04 2017 at 09:24 |
Cristi wrote:
Rednight wrote:
Hell, Illegal Alien is better than anything off of that so-called Yes offering. I mean the Yes is that pukey. |
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Sorry to have struck a nerve. Say, your cat looks a helluva lot like mine, but she's part of Homeland Security.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Boojieboy
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Posted: October 04 2017 at 12:09 |
Even though I usually give the edge to Genesis, Yes had more going for them that year (in my opinion).
I was glad to find the updated/remastered 90125 a couple of years ago. That finally gives it the power and clarity that it needed. If your copy sounds "dated", you probably have the old version, and need "the upgrade".
Edited by Boojieboy - October 04 2017 at 12:10
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Posted: October 05 2017 at 07:01 |
My two favorite bands, and neither of these albums rate very highly with me unfortunately.
I have to say though, as mediocre as I think they are, they were only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how far these groups would sink on their next two releases ie:
Shapes > Invisible Touch > We Can't Dance
90125 > Big Generator > Union
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twosteves
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Posted: October 05 2017 at 07:52 |
bender99 wrote:
My two favorite bands, and neither of these albums rate very highly with me unfortunately.
I have to say though, as mediocre as I think they are, they were only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how far these groups would sink on their next two releases ie:
Shapes > Invisible Touch > We Can't Dance
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Very true---but for me there were always more tasteful-great songs on the mediocre Genesis.
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Posted: October 05 2017 at 09:45 |
Everybody knows that I love it
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com
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octopus-4
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Posted: October 05 2017 at 09:45 |
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com
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Rednight
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Posted: October 05 2017 at 13:48 |
octopus-4 wrote:
Everybody knows that I love it
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I bet you're up on show tunes also.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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octopus-4
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Posted: October 05 2017 at 14:33 |
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Has anybody heard the verdion of Iwner if a Lonely Heart by Anderson and Pobty?
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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