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dwill123
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Topic: Best drumming from a non-prog group Posted: October 13 2017 at 15:41 |
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 15:14 | ||
Louie Bellson - double-kick extraordinaire !
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dr wu23
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 10:54 | ||
Danny Seraphine...from Chicago
Steve Gadd....Steely Dan (and most of the others they used...) Charlie Watts Ginger Baker John Bonham to name a few that I like....
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Mascodagama
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 10:12 | ||
Playing jazz keeps you young! One of the first real jazz gigs I saw was Art Blakey and the Messengers the last time they came to the UK in 1989. He would have been almost seventy, and very sadly he died about a year later, but that night he played with the energy and sheer joy of a teenager - two sets of full force hard bop finishing around 3am. Similar story with Sonny Rollins, who was well into his seventies when I last saw him play, though that was a concert hall affair not a jazz club gig. Buddy Rich had phenomenal technique, but - as I know you know - there's much more that goes to make a great jazz drummer than his kind of grandstanding, and he wouldn't make my personal top 20. He does seem to be that one drummer that people who don't know all that much jazz usually know and rate, though (much in the same way casual listeners very often think Kind of Blue is the greatest jazz album ever). Edited by Mascodagama - October 13 2017 at 11:08 |
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FUGAZI86
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 08:04 | ||
Yes the sound on albums is very odd, and i think its due to the massive usage of 80's stuff as electronic drums and so on. actually after "News of the world" he became less interesting and original, on LPS. Yesterday i played "the works" (1984) and i've not been impressed as always, but if i play most of those songs from "live at wembley", that would be another story. In records seem always to "hold back". About nick mason comparison is a very controversial topic, some define him a genius drummer, some very lazy and weak. i find him very good in fills, and his drumming fit perfectly the Floyd sound, but we have to face after "the wall" he plays so few times for real. AMLOR for example never have a real drum play by him... Anyway drums is the crucial part of what we play, so this is a very interesting debate! |
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Davesax1965
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 07:57 | ||
The late, great and sadly missed Joe Morello.
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condor
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 07:20 | ||
Thanks for the Buddy Rich
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Logan
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 06:02 | ||
Yeah, when I think of great drummers, I think of jazz ones. My choice will be Art Blakey of Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers (check out Moanin').
A lesser known one that I love is André Ceccarelli, he's done solo, and collaborated with and been a session musician on many albums including ones by artists included in PA. While I consider this to be JRF by this site's standards (not included in PA though although it has been suggested), this is one of my favourites featuring him: |
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 05:53 | ||
I know it's not even remotely implied by the OP but I can't help but think this is one of those 'tallest dwarf in the village' polls....(It's just me)
Ted McKenna (SAHB) Budgie (Siouxsie & the Banshees) Pete de Freitas (Echo & the Bunnymen) Billy Ficca (Television) John Densmore (the Doors) Terry Chambers (XTC) Karl Burns (the Fall) Topper Headon (the Clash) Boris Williams (the Cure) Victor DeLorenzo (Violent Femmes) J.D. Haney (the Monochrome Set) Steve Jansen (Rain Tree Crow) Bruce Smith (PIL) Edited by ExittheLemming - October 13 2017 at 06:10 |
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 05:45 | ||
I think he lost his balls somewhere in the early 80s. He used to be such a brilliant and interesting drummer but suddenly something grave happened to his playing and he started sounding like latter day Nick Mason. |
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 05:42 | ||
I was about to post a 100 different jazz drummers but I guess the above will suffice. Most prog fans tend to think that their favoured genre is the top echelon of instrumental prowess yet most of these cats would break their backs trying to follow a jazz band. Most jazz drummers switching over to rock work just fine and tend to be the finest we ever hear in the genre....I'm not sure it goes the other way round...heh i can just imagine Lars Ulrich ditching Metallica to jam alongside his father's old jazz buddies Alright then let's just mention the one and only Buddy Rich. To many the most gifted jazz drummer ever to walk the earth (which I certainly don't agree with) and disregarding the fallacy of such a statement it is somewhat understandable why folkds would believe that - especially after having watched the upcoming video (where he isn't even in his prime - the man is OLD in this clip): |
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chopper
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 05:24 | ||
Good drummer but I've always thought he has an awful drum sound on most Queen albums.
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dwill123
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Posted: October 12 2017 at 16:55 | ||
A very underrated drummer Jim Gordon (Derek and the Dominos).
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FUGAZI86
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Posted: October 12 2017 at 08:12 | ||
I would add Rogery Taylor to the list.
A very underrated drummer, he seems to be a "normal" drummer on their albums, but in gigs it was capable to show a powerful presence. See "live in montreal" of 1982, you'll not be disappointed. |
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: October 11 2017 at 10:22 | ||
Max Roach
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Categories strain, crack and sometimes break, under their burden - step out of the space provided.
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Icarium
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Posted: October 11 2017 at 10:09 | ||
Steve Gadd with Paul Simon is superbe, and Bernard Perdie in Steely Dan
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: October 11 2017 at 09:44 | ||
Nothing beats the best in jazz and extreme metal. However in prog there's always masters like Billy Cobham (although he's jazz too ;)
Check out bands like Nile and Behemoth (Demigod) era. Drumming doesn't get any more technical and crazy! Pretty much most of the hard bop jazz drummers as well
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: October 11 2017 at 09:19 | ||
Joe Morello. Brubeck Quartet. Magnificent.
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Icarium
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Posted: October 10 2017 at 16:01 | ||
Jeff Porcaro and Simon Phillips in Toto...thread.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: October 10 2017 at 15:27 | ||
Yes, drumming is better in non prog bands.
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Ian
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