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axeman 
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 Topic: Is Rush's "Cygnus X-1" a metal song?
Posted: November 28 2017 at 12:36 |
Two big flags on this, from what I can see. Metal seldom uses straight flanged guitar for a "power" riff. And Lee's walking, boogie-style bass line (kicking in around minute 6) is just too standard rock to call it metal.
Really, nothing in this song strikes me as more characteristic of metal, than a style of heavy rock. Maybe around minute 8, but the lack of distortion on Lifeson's guitar still detracts from that impact.
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SteveG
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Posted: November 28 2017 at 07:00 |
 Davesax1965 wrote:
Nope, completely pre-dates metal. It's just heavy progressive music. There are lots of examples. Retrospectively calling these "prog metal" is wrong.
Also putting labels on things stinks. Music is to be enjoyed, not dissected. |
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Edited by SteveG - November 28 2017 at 07:01
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Davesax1965
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Posted: November 28 2017 at 06:10 |
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Nope, completely pre-dates metal. It's just heavy progressive music. There are lots of examples. Retrospectively calling these "prog metal" is wrong.
Also putting labels on things stinks. Music is to be enjoyed, not dissected.
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Posted: November 28 2017 at 04:30 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Is Cygnus X-1 metal? No. Could Cygnus X-1 have influenced later prog metal bands? Yes 
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Hmm...how about Cyg X-1 as proto prog metal then? 
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Hercules
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Posted: November 28 2017 at 03:30 |
I saw Rush in 77 at Glasgow and they were a standard (but really excellent) hard rock band with prog influences, but not metal.
I don't think Rush have ever been metal or even prog metal.
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 17:05 |
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No it's not, but you can clearly hear parts that influenced groups like Dream Theater, Opeth, even Voivod :)
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 14:38 |
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No, Heavens no! It is just part of one of the greatest duos of back-to-back prog ever produced.
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 13:42 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Is Cygnus X-1 metal? No. Could Cygnus X-1 have influenced later prog metal bands? Yes |
This.
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TexasKing
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 12:15 |
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I think Cygnus X-1 is much more metal than most songs on the album Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 11:53 |
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Not any more so than Hemisphere's side one or 2112 side one.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 11:45 |
Is Cygnus X-1 metal? No. Could Cygnus X-1 have influenced later prog metal bands? Yes
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 09:43 |
it's not even close to Metal in my opinion.
agree with what Dellinger said
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 09:39 |
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Manuel
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 08:53 |
Dellinger wrote:
Not really... more hard rock prog, or heavy prog, or whatever. I think the guitars are not yet heavy or metal enough. Though I can imagine it easily being played in a truly metal fashion. |
I couldn't say it better.
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 06:42 |
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I have no problem calling it metal.
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 05:27 |
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Not really, IMHO. More like heavy prog.
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 04:58 |
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Prog metal.
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SteveG
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 04:26 |
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A lot of early Rush is prog metal to me with later material being heavy prog, so yes.
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 04:16 |
dr wu23 wrote:
I'll go with heavy prog....like their board category.There are some metal elements in that song but I have never thought of them or their music as metal. |
I agree !!!
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Posted: November 26 2017 at 21:57 |
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Not really... more hard rock prog, or heavy prog, or whatever. I think the guitars are not yet heavy or metal enough. Though I can imagine it easily being played in a truly metal fashion.
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Is Rush's "Cygnus X-1" a metal song?
