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Meltdowner
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 06:36 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I had to think about that for a second since Bruford has played with both bands.
Did you know that Bill Bruford also played on Chris Squire's "Fish out of Water" album? |
Bruford and Squire's rhythmic duo is what I like the most about Yes so I'm not very enthusiastic about anything after CTTE. I even prefer TAAW to Relayer
Yeah, a glaring omission in my collection
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
As much as it disappoints me, the truth is that Yes and Genesis are no longer the gateway bands for those getting into prog for the first time. Sure, for some maybe but not for the majority of the younger prog fans. It wasn't like this for a long time but Yes and most of the other classic seventies prog bands(with the exception of PF and maybe KC; Rush too but they weren't really part of the original prog wave in most respects)have been buried underneath all the prog metal and newer prog stuff(including post rock)that gets more recognition and attention these days. Ultimately, most people(especially younger folks)are social creatures and will gravitate towards what their friends like and what their friends think is hip and cool. If liking ELP and Yes and Genesis isn't cool or hip then they are out as far as prog goes. Most of the fans on this forum though go deeper and are a bit more open minded and hardcore so don't really make up the typical prog fans(same thing for some of the other prog sites and fb groups). Most of the general discussion boards though like reddit and all the gamer ones and general music forums that have prog mentioned or a special little prog section seem to get responses mostly from the young hipster prog fans who are in love with Riverside, Haken and Opeth but don't have any PG era Genesis or Yes albums or more obscure vintage albums. |
Speaking as someone who got into Prog in this decade (although I don't like Metal much), what kept me from getting into bands like PF, Genesis or Yes was listening to their 80's hits on the radio. That's the uncool stuff! It took some incentive to explore more from them, respectively: seeing The Australian Pink Floyd, listening to Firth of Fifth on a web radio, seeing Roger Dean's artwork (as part of Fly From Here's promotion) and wondering how was the music behind it I never even heard of King Crimson until ITCOTCK was suggested by Youtube
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 07:11 |
Meltdowner wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I had to think about that for a second since Bruford has played with both bands.
Did you know that Bill Bruford also played on Chris Squire's "Fish out of Water" album? | Bruford and Squire's rhythmic duo is what I like the most about Yes so I'm not very enthusiastic about anything after CTTE. I even prefer TAAW to Relayer
Yeah, a glaring omission in my collection
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
As much as it disappoints me, the truth is that Yes and Genesis are no longer the gateway bands for those getting into prog for the first time. Sure, for some maybe but not for the majority of the younger prog fans. It wasn't like this for a long time but Yes and most of the other classic seventies prog bands(with the exception of PF and maybe KC; Rush too but they weren't really part of the original prog wave in most respects)have been buried underneath all the prog metal and newer prog stuff(including post rock)that gets more recognition and attention these days. Ultimately, most people(especially younger folks)are social creatures and will gravitate towards what their friends like and what their friends think is hip and cool. If liking ELP and Yes and Genesis isn't cool or hip then they are out as far as prog goes. Most of the fans on this forum though go deeper and are a bit more open minded and hardcore so don't really make up the typical prog fans(same thing for some of the other prog sites and fb groups). Most of the general discussion boards though like reddit and all the gamer ones and general music forums that have prog mentioned or a special little prog section seem to get responses mostly from the young hipster prog fans who are in love with Riverside, Haken and Opeth but don't have any PG era Genesis or Yes albums or more obscure vintage albums. |
Speaking as someone who got into Prog in this decade (although I don't like Metal much), what kept me from getting into bands like PF, Genesis or Yes was listening to their 80's hits on the radio. That's the uncool stuff! It took some incentive to explore more from them, respectively: seeing The Australian Pink Floyd, listening to Firth of Fifth on a web radio, seeing Roger Dean's artwork (as part of Fly From Here's promotion) and wondering how was the music behind it I never even heard of King Crimson until ITCOTCK was suggested by Youtube |
So if you don't mind me asking how old are you and how did you first discover prog and get into it(what bands etc)?
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AEProgman
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 07:13 |
Tongues... Like Relayer, but not my favorite by them.
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Meltdowner
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 07:28 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
So if you don't mind me asking how old are you and how did you first discover prog and get into it(what bands etc)? |
It's on my profile, I'm 23. I already liked the proggier stuff from Led Zeppelin and The Beatles but the first real Prog bands (according to PA) I got into were Pink Floyd, Supertramp and Yes in 2011. I only discovered the term Prog the next year while searching about José Cid's "10.000 Anos Depois..." and found out this site, although I didn't fully realize the gold mine I found until I signed up in 2013
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 10:14 |
Well, I don't think the age on someone's profile is automatically updated(although I could be wrong)so I could assume that you are around 27 now since you joined in 2013.
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Meltdowner
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 10:34 |
^ It works correctly, it's calculated from the date of birth.
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Barbu
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 12:12 |
I'll take both.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 15:00 |
Meltdowner wrote:
^ It works correctly, it's calculated from the date of birth. |
Well then it must automatically update every time you have a birthday(something I wasn't aware of).
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HackettFan
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 17:14 |
^Actually, FYI, down at the bottom of the PA home page the day's birthdays are presented.
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A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now)
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Peter
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 17:50 |
Holy thread-jack, Batman! Stick with the tour, dudes.
Edited by Peter - December 19 2017 at 17:52
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: January 01 2018 at 17:51 |
Relayer.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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dr prog
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Posted: January 01 2018 at 18:18 |
Probably Larks. Not crazy about either though.
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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zwordser
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Posted: January 18 2018 at 06:26 |
Larkstongue41 wrote:
Larks. Still the most musically eye-opening experience I've ever hfad. | Really? Me too! (Except it was Relayer)
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thief
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Posted: January 18 2018 at 13:08 |
Both are definite masterpieces of prog. I'd be hard pressed to list 10 bands with ANY album approaching lofty heights of Relayer or Larks' Tongues in Aspic. Today I'll vote for Larks', but it's not a definite answer. Very close battle imho, good job OP.
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