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Poll Question: Which is best?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 09:02
Two things surprise me on this poll....the low number of votes in general  and that Lizard received the most.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 09:59
Maybe people are tired to the polls.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 10:18
LTIA, today

Then Islands, Discipline, Red, ITCOTCK, Lizard...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 10:32
Larks' Tongues for me. It's unlike anything else ever made.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 10:34
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Two things surprise me on this poll....the low number of votes in general  and that Lizard received the most.
Maybe it's because most who saw the title thought it referred to KC and the Sunshine Band. LOLTongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 10:40
I remember that Lizard was completely excluded from the first compilation. "A Young OPerson's Guide", and that Fripp, at least at the time, didn't like the album.  I like both Lizard and Islands, but not what came after, apart from a few songs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 11:07
I'd say Red, but Lizard pulled out all the plugs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 11:27
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

I remember that Lizard was completely excluded from the first compilation. "A Young OPerson's Guide", and that Fripp, at least at the time, didn't like the album.  I like both Lizard and Islands, but not what came after, apart from a few songs.
Well, maybe he has started to like it because Cirkus and part of the Lizard are in the new live. Really great versions, very near of original arrangements!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 12:29
There wasn't much from "In the Wake of Poseidon" on "A Young Persons Guide" either and I think only "Ladies of the Road" from Islands. Anyway, I had that on cassette back in the eighties when I first got into KC and I wish they would reissue it on cd. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 12:41
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

There wasn't much from "In the Wake of Poseidon" on "A Young Persons Guide" either and I think only "Ladies of the Road" from Islands. Anyway, I had that on cassette back in the eighties when I first got into KC and I wish they would reissue it on cd. 

it had only cadence and cascade and cat food I think from ITWOP, plus you could sort of count "Groon" as being from the same sessions.  It was notable that there was nothing from Lizard, even though the cover was shown along with the others.

 I have also heard a few great alternate versions of Cirkus from the original era, which, along with "Prince Rupert Awakes", I consider among KC's best songs.  Some of Lizard is a bit too weird for me, but both it and Islands are unique within the discography, whereas to me the next 3 albums are cut from the same cloth, and the 3 1980s albums are an imperfect pair as well.

I read that "Fallen Angel" was the last time Fripp used acoustic guitar in the studio.  Anyone know why he stopped using it?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 13:02
I just looked it up on here and it seems that "peace- a theme" was on there as well. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1913

Anyway, I'm not sure why nothing from Lizard is on there either. I think maybe because in Fripp's mind nothing really stood out? I think the main reason is he's just not that big a fan of that album in general. Still, I think "lady of the dancing water" or "indoor games" could have been included.

Edit: Not sure why Fripp stopped using the acoustic guitar. I never noticed that before but now that you mention it you are probably right. 

Also, the cover of AYPGTCK features some strange animal with twenty legs walking up a mountain with a guy playing keyboards on top of it so I'm not sure what you mean when you said the covers are on it? I only had it on cassette though so I don't know what was in the gatefold vinyl version. I actually had to send a letter requesting the booklet that came with the vinyl copy. I must have lost that booklet over 25 years ago. Lol. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 13:33
^ in the gatefold there were pictures of all the albums from KC up to that point Smile
I had the LP and you're right about peace a theme, I forgot
Interestingly also, lots from the first album but not "Schizoid Man", which at the time the compilation was released was the only first album song they were playing live I think.
I always loved his acoustic guitar style and the lack of it on later albums is just one of the many reasons I prefer the earlier ones
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 13:38
Oh ok. See I wouldn't know because I've never owned it or seen it. I would like to have a copy one of these days but for now I don't feel like spending 80 dollars for it(If I'm lucky)on ebay. 

I like the later stuff but much of it seems to lack the imagination and experimentation of the first incarnation of the band. Not sure if you are a fan of Rush but most of their later stuff doesn't include much acoustic guitar either(after Permanent Waves) except for a bit on presto and maybe a little bit on their most recent ones. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 13:41
hmm I might still have it, thought I got rid of almost all my collection just before the market improved for albums, naturally, but I might have inherited a copy more recently.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 16:39
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 16:44
Originally posted by Larkstongue41 Larkstongue41 wrote:

Best? Discipline.

This. For "best"--i.e. a collaboration of four musicians each at their very creative & technical peaks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 23:23
They havenīt used mellotron after seventies, that I think is the one reason why I love seventies material much more. I just love that instrument! But of course not only mellotron can make music great, I donīt think Barcley James Harvest is even near of Crimson greatness although BJH has used a lot more mellotron than Crimson.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2018 at 23:27
In discogs cheapest young persons... with booklet is 17 euros.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2018 at 02:44
I just listened to Lizard for the first time in years, and it's much better than I remember.

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2018 at 02:55
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