Why are Rush songs Madrigal and Rivendell hated? |
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Jeffro
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I've always loved Madrigal. It fits really well on Kings
The quote below sums up pretty well why I don't like Rivendell. It's just a snoozer. It's not quite as bad as Tears though.
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BaldFriede
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The comments made me curious, and so I listened to the track. I can hear why many Rush fans won't like it, but I don't think it's that bad because it captures the spirit of what the song is about - Rivendell, the place where Elves dwell, as any reader of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy should know. Lots of changes in the song (that's what some commenters were missing) would not have fitted this tranquil place.
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Blacksword
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I don't hate them, but regard them as weak in relation to other tracks on their respective albums. Probably not so weak, that I would go to the effort of skipping them. I wasn't aware they were 'hated' by fans...
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Barbu
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Nothing wrong with disliking Rush, Tom. Nothing wrong with being a snob either. |
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Tom Ozric
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^ ‘Snob’ sounds harsh, man. The Baldies are anything but
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Catcher10
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Yes but if you don't know the songs, why post anything about them Tom, especially something so negative.......?
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BaldFriede
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If you had read my comment correctly you would have noticed I did not
say anything about the songs; I explicitly said I don't know them. My comment was solely about the band itself. But perhaps you
were too snobby to notice.
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Catcher10
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So it is understood that you know nothing about any of their songs since you dislike the band, I am fine with that. But my post is not about that, it is about why post something so negative about something you don't know about, supposedly?
So based on your explanation above, your original post makes no sense other than to try and start a flame war in this thread, which is not about the band but about 2 songs. I never called you snobs.......I'm fine with other people calling you snobs. |
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BaldFriede
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I don't know songs in specific. I listened to ALL records of this band, and the music just did not touch me. But I don't remember any specific songs. Got it now?
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Too mellow.
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Catcher10
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Sure, would be nice if people explained themselves clearly on their first attempt..You get that? I'll never get that time I wasted in my posts back into my life.....damn....lesson learned.
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Tom Ozric
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......sheezus, let’s all kiss and make up. It’s Rush, dammit, not Slayer
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Jeffro
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Well, given the choice I'd rather kiss Rush than Slayer. However, I'd rather stick a fork in my eye than kiss any of them.
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M27Barney
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What's wrong with Slayer? I used to like them in the early eighties - must have some vinyl by them somewhere in the loft, in a really stomping angry mood I reckon I would still appreciate some of their material.
Madrigal and Rivendel - wonder if it's got anything to do,with the fact that both titles have three syllables?
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Catcher10
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I can agree, but when there are polarizing members that litter a simple thread like this one where no meaningful discussion can be had, it ain't worth it brother......it ain't worth it.
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SteveG
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These songs are ok but not worth fighting over.
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Catcher10
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Hi Steve
The issue is nobody was fighting about it, there were some meaningful initial posts. It could have grown into a nice discussion about the two songs.........but it got littered with trash.
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Tom Ozric
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Not like that in this day and age. |
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The Analog Man
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One of the first songs I learned on guitar was "Rivendell" Beautiful song.
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LastSonOfGallifrey
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I've never liked 'Rivendell', but I think 'Madrigal' fits in very nicely on AFTK.
For my money, 'Red Lenses' is the worst song Rush ever recorded.
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