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The Dark Elf
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 12681 |
Posted: January 11 2018 at 17:00 | ||
Drop the song length down to 2:30 and make it danceable. Some good looking singers and musicians might help as well.
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progmatic
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 22 2009 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 1785 |
Posted: January 11 2018 at 18:35 | ||
Exactly.
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progmatic
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 22 2009 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 1785 |
Posted: January 11 2018 at 18:37 | ||
Would love to know why I can make several posts and then suddenly I'm asked to click to prove I'm a person, and then it still doesn't let me post. Then I repeat the whole process exactly the same way and WOW! It posted. This site does that to me, usually when it's a long post. I've learned to copy my longer posts so when the site makes them vanish I don't have to try to rewrite the whole thing.
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twosteves
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 01 2007 Location: NYC/Rhinebeck Status: Offline Points: 4070 |
Posted: January 11 2018 at 22:00 | ||
I'd put together a supergroup with Steve Hackett and Steve Howe!! Oh, wait---never mind.
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awaken77
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 25 2008 Status: Offline Points: 374 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 02:08 | ||
less w**king
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=musical+masturbation and please stop this habit making double and extended albums. 40-50 minutes of good music is enough. its hard to make it longer without being repetitive |
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Frenetic Zetetic
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 02:57 | ||
Listen to songs in reverse and come up with "new" riffs!
This site is infamous for it's broken CAPTCHA process. Copy + Paste your posts, ALWAYS.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 16148 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 07:19 | ||
Hi, It's just weird that no one knows or understands the term that is being used as a "definition", and then start adding/subtracting instruments ... so they can hear their favorites. If you want favorites, go do the top ten ... forget "prog" or "poorrog", or anything related to the term, that has nothing to do with it. When all this came up, what became "prog" and "progressive" did not even have a definition, because no one knew what to call it ... and it even got something like "art rock" attached to it. Sadly, 40 years later, we're not smart, and can only think in terms of "definitions", even though they are NOT, and NEVER WERE, proper and concise to the music itself that got that "title. It's always weird to me ... Robert Fripp saying he is not "progressive", and neither is KC, and yet we call them that. I guess the artist is an idiot and would not know anything about his music, and besides, knowing music is ... hmmmmm .... making sure you are stuck to the staff and add the oddities that supposedly make it "prog" or "progressive"? Here's my take! 1. The addition of any instrument, is accidental, not incidental. 2. It can not be a "song" format, or any known format in music, because otherwise, it wouldn't be "progressive", unless it were doing just scales ... in which case, THAT IS NOT, progressive at all ... that's just a hand study to improve your playing! In fact, those scales are mostly mechanical and mathematical ... and that is not known as "progressive" or "prog". UNFORTUNATELY that is all you hear? 3. Subject matter is not limited to fantasies about dragons and metaphysics! 4. The "meaning" of the pieces should be completely abstract, so the audience is considered not intelligent enough to just enjoy the listen, which a "prog" audience" can not do! 5. A new century and time would help, so that all these old ideas and thoughts are long gone, and we can finally hear something different ... instead of the awesomely tired and boring ... smae thing all over again, but this time with a violin, or a cowbell ... folks, that is not even original anymore and has not been for 50 years! 6. How can it be "progressive" or "prog" when it is not either of those by pure definition? It's just an idea by pop-fan=crazed folks that love their top ten because they have nothing else to enjoy with their friends?
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siLLy puPPy
Special Collaborator PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 14719 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 07:34 | ||
I would make it so every time a prog album is purchased, millions of dollars disappear from wealthy individuals' secret bank accounts and placed into the hands of the artists of the albums sold. Hey, i might as well dream big!
Edited by siLLy puPPy - January 12 2018 at 07:35 |
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progbethyname
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7750 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 07:55 | ||
I'm one of those guys who strongly advocates for improved and better audio quality for which the newer that I end up hearing here in the 21st century.
I think Prog is in great shape on a creative level, but unfortunately a lot of newer Prog is weakly recorded (audio engineering wise) and it drives me nuts. So that is where improvements must be made to enjoy the music...for me. This is just my opinion. |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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mlkpad14
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 23 2017 Location: U.S. Status: Offline Points: 665 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 08:59 | ||
The only good post in this silly thread. Listen to what you like or make up your own music if you don't like what it out there, but don't generalize all of prog into a few words. Basically everything that was stated here exists, so what is the problem?
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ForestFriend
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 23 2017 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 680 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 09:46 | ||
Well, classic prog bands used a lot of Hammond organs, which were made to emulate church organs, Mellotrons, which were made to emulate orchestral instruments, electric pianos, which were made to emulate acoustic pianos, etc... Then again, they barely sounded anything like they were supposed to, so we got a whole new sound rather than something that's obviously supposed to be something else, but isn't quite there. |
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SteveG
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Posted: January 12 2018 at 10:56 | ||
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WeepingElf
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 18 2013 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 373 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 13:10 | ||
Bring back the "progressive spirit" of classical prog within a modern sound. I am writing songs about the transition towards a more sustainable social reality for my band.
Edited by WeepingElf - January 12 2018 at 13:11 |
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Thatfabulousalien
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 27 2016 Location: Aussie/NZ Status: Offline Points: 1409 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 17:21 | ||
Also, music videos with lots of nudity.....cause advertisement
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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Frenetic Zetetic
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 17:25 | ||
Right! I suppose that was ultimately my point. Those synth sounds were very unique, even if they were intended emulation for that period. So we basically have bands trying to emulate an emulation. It's like tape trading; each copy is worse and worse. Almost like progressive rock telephone!
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Bigbobby10
Forum Newbie Joined: September 27 2016 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 28 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 17:28 | ||
I want to have a band that only uses Mellotrons (must have at least 5 members)
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Frenetic Zetetic
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 17:33 | ||
I've wanted to get a band going with a second bass player (including myself).
I've got a tight drummer who's into prog (fantastic taste, honestly). Two guitars has been done to death.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Mascodagama
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 18:10 | ||
In Morte Macabre all four members played Mellotron. Though some also played guitars/bass/drums, so not the purist article you describe. Edited by Mascodagama - January 12 2018 at 18:10 |
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trippinhippy
Forum Newbie Joined: January 12 2018 Location: Mississippi Status: Offline Points: 1 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 18:36 | ||
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AFlowerKingCrimson
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 16167 |
Posted: January 12 2018 at 20:36 | ||
Fewer songs about elves and dragons.
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