Best Pink Floyd Album (really again)

I know the Wall is not respected in the general music world, but not even here? To me it´s after Tommy and Lamb one of the greatest double concept-albums.

Ummagumma 

i said i voted Meddle but i selected Atom Heart Mother

Wish you were here is probably my favorite followed by AHM then Meddle. After that probably Animals. Most of the others are a bit too played out for me. Even much of WYWH is played out  but I really like the shine on stuff on there. Whether you want to call them prog or not PF was a band that at one point really wasn't afraid to stretch out and do longer pieces of music. You would think more kiddies would catch on and get into Yes and maybe early Genesis as a result but no instead their record collections consist of PF and all the other stuff being alternative and growling death metal. 

Dark Side and Meddle are my two favourites in that order.

Mortte wrote: I know the Wall is not respected in the general music world, but not even here? To me it´s after Tommy and Lamb one of the greatest double concept-albums.

I do like The Wall a lot, and it is my favourite Dobule concept album (much better than The Lamb for me, though I don't know Tommy). And I think the lyrics and concept are brilliant. It's just that what the band and done before is notably better. Actually I have a list on my IPod with my favourite tracks from The Wall, plus including the better ones from The Final Cut, and even the solo albums at the time from Gilmour and Wright, putting all the songs in the order that I thought might keep the concept and music flowing the right way (the solo albums because one of the complaints of Waters, as far as I remember, with the band at the time was that Gilmour and Wright were not contributing music, and instead used their ideas for the solo albums). For me it sounds so much better that way.

Edited by Dellinger - January 12 2018 at 21:34

Mortte wrote: Dellinger wrote: Mortte wrote: I know the Wall is not respected in the general music world, but not even here? To me it´s after Tommy and Lamb one of the greatest double concept-albums. I do like The Wall a lot, and it is my favourite Dobule concept album (much better than The Lamb for me, though I don't know Tommy). And I think the lyrics and concept are brilliant. It's just that what the band and done before is notably better. Actually I have a list on my IPod with my favourite tracks from The Wall, plus including the better ones from The Final Cut, and even the solo albums at the time from Gilmour and Wright, putting all the songs in the order that I thought might keep the concept and music flowing the right way (the solo albums because one of the complaints of Waters, as far as I remember, with the band at the time was that Gilmour and Wright were not contributing music, and instead used their ideas for the solo albums). For me it sounds so much better that way. Of course I wouldn´t not ever vote the Wall, because there are so many better albums. I am just wondering why it still gets any votes, because even Momentary Lapse has got and Endless already two. Well I quess there are those who don´t like Floyd at all and they want to add some humour here. It´s ok to me, this is not absolutely serious. Watched yesterday Fletcher memorial Home and Final Cut-vids and they looked and specially sounded so great! Gilmour solos are really great in those, there any even near in Waters solo albums. I really think now Final Cut is really underrated Floyd album, to me it´s far better than those rest non-Waters albums at the moment. I think Gilmour did something to the Wall, Wright was only a hired musician in the Wall tour.

I am actually fond of the Gilmour led Floyd too. Actually, Division Bell is my third favourite Floyd album, and it would have been even better if they had mixed in some of the music that was left for what became Endless River (even if that meant leaving out a few songs that did make it into Division Bell).

The Wall isn't necessarily reviled around here, but I figure that as with many or most concept albums, the narrative starts to dominate the music. The need for plentiful lyrics overwhelms and disintegrates musical inspiration. I do enjoy The Wall from start to finish, but there isn't a single track, in and of itself, that rivals the groups earlier offerings (the same is true of Lamb and Tommy, incidentally). So while many of us may enjoy the album, I can understand it being difficult for any one person to consider it their absolute favorite; it simply isn't distinctive and singular enough. Even The Final Cut, for all its problems, is genuinely daring in how incredibly (and perhaps ill-advisedly) tortured and misanthropic it is. 

Mortte wrote: Dellinger wrote: Mortte wrote: Dellinger wrote: Mortte wrote: I know the Wall is not respected in the general music world, but not even here? To me it´s after Tommy and Lamb one of the greatest double concept-albums. I do like The Wall a lot, and it is my favourite Dobule concept album (much better than The Lamb for me, though I don't know Tommy). And I think the lyrics and concept are brilliant. It's just that what the band and done before is notably better. Actually I have a list on my IPod with my favourite tracks from The Wall, plus including the better ones from The Final Cut, and even the solo albums at the time from Gilmour and Wright, putting all the songs in the order that I thought might keep the concept and music flowing the right way (the solo albums because one of the complaints of Waters, as far as I remember, with the band at the time was that Gilmour and Wright were not contributing music, and instead used their ideas for the solo albums). For me it sounds so much better that way. Of course I wouldn´t not ever vote the Wall, because there are so many better albums. I am just wondering why it still gets any votes, because even Momentary Lapse has got and Endless already two. Well I quess there are those who don´t like Floyd at all and they want to add some humour here. It´s ok to me, this is not absolutely serious. Watched yesterday Fletcher memorial Home and Final Cut-vids and they looked and specially sounded so great! Gilmour solos are really great in those, there any even near in Waters solo albums. I really think now Final Cut is really underrated Floyd album, to me it´s far better than those rest non-Waters albums at the moment. I think Gilmour did something to the Wall, Wright was only a hired musician in the Wall tour. I am actually fond of the Gilmour led Floyd too. Actually, Division Bell is my third favourite Floyd album, and it would have been even better if they had mixed in some of the music that was left for what became Endless River (even if that meant leaving out a few songs that did make it into Division Bell). Well, I think after Barrett Waters was the greatest creative force of Floyd´s, and how great albums the Wall and the Final Cut are comparing to Momentary & Division proofs that. But I have become in my older age mercyful to those two albums, I think they have enough Floyd magic to like them.

As far as I understand it, it was not until Dark Side that Waters became the band's greatest creative force, and then it was mostly for the development of concepts, for the music was still more evenly created between the band. But Waters indeed appears in all the credits because of the lyrics, even if he didn't really contribute that much to the writing of the music. It was not until The Wall (and The Final Cut, of course) that he really took control of the music and concept... and that's how I can compare how much I think he wasn't enough to make the band so great... and then his solo albums confirm it.   Once again, as far as Momentary Lapse and Division Bell are concerned, at least I like DB more than The Wall, and I guess MLoR takes the edge over TFC (at least slightly, though I think both are somewhat tied). Still, those two (or 3?) Gilmour led albums did loose something with the loss of Waters... but at the same time they gained a new sound that I am fond of indeed... they seem to have taken the blueprint of Comfortably Numb, actually, the greatest song on The Wall, and many of the songs on those two albums are, for me, at least as great as CN, so that is enough to make them a great addition to Floyd's discography.