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siLLy puPPy
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Topic: Is Pantera an overrated metal band? Posted: February 11 2018 at 07:22 |
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AND Foxtrot :) Seriously Pantera's "Far Beyond Driven" and "Great Southern Trendkill" are avant-garde classics. They're not as instantly gratifying as the first two (which i love but overplayed) but they are the ones that have evolved as time goes on
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Squonk19
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Posted: February 11 2018 at 07:06 | |
Come on,...they only really 'clicked' on 'One Man's Fool' off 'Calling All Station'! Looking forward to the new album....but it seems to be a long time coming..... |
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Squonk19
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Posted: February 11 2018 at 06:55 | |
Yes....next question.
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Cristi
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Posted: February 11 2018 at 05:28 | |
oh yes, I find them overrated. They got two solid albums 0 Cowboys from Hell and Vulgar Display of Power, they've never topped those and got predictable.
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Mortte
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Posted: January 15 2018 at 12:06 | |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: January 15 2018 at 11:33 | |
Nursery Cryme is overrated, and Genesis didn't "click" and find their sound (stylistically) until "Fountain of Salmacis" hits . I still don't find them musically adventurous despite owning all of their records and giving them a more than honest shot. Not being negative, they just don't do it for me! I'm also mature enough to understand other people feel the exact opposite, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: January 15 2018 at 11:14 | |
^ never heard that before but even if it's true has nothing to do with their own merits
David, I agree. I could start a thread about Nursery Cryme being overrated because it doesn't do much for me but instead I'm simply happy that others can find joy with it even if I dont. |
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TexasKing
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Posted: January 15 2018 at 09:25 | |
Pantera is the most influential band on nu-metal, subgenre of metal music which sucks.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: January 15 2018 at 06:16 | |
These polls are vastly overrated if anything. Is Pantera overrated is basically just code for: I don't like Pantera yet many do and I think they're wrong, and it'd be cool if I could piss some of them off in the process...though without painting a bull's eye on my back.
Just one of the many euphemisms for 'gong against the grain' in today's online music universe: I don't like X classic artist therefor he/she/it must be overrated. When opinion trumps opinion. |
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Meltdowner
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Posted: January 15 2018 at 05:40 | |
Ratings are overrated.
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ducklair
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Posted: January 15 2018 at 05:34 | |
I think they are
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Mortte
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Posted: January 14 2018 at 08:07 | |
I like Metallica, Voivod, Opeth and Stone. There is enough new metal to me. Never listened any whole Pantera-album, just some songs, but any of what I have heard haven´t ever make me want to listen whole Pantera album.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: January 14 2018 at 07:44 | |
Except that it sounds like a Metallica clone! If you analyze it closely you can pick out each riff ripped off from Masters of Puppets. Albums like Catch Thirtythree and Nothing, however get me excited!
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: January 14 2018 at 07:41 | |
^ do you guys actually listen to the music? First of all they invented groove metal (look it up). Secondly their music was incredibly diverse starting with Cowboys From Hell and became extremely experimental on Far Beyond Driven. There is not one album in the universe that sounds like that one. The Great Southern Trend Kill continues the experimental side but they always maintained unique melodic drives with extraordinarily technical interplay between the instruments. Any guitarist could learn how to play an AC/DC song in like 10 minutes. It would take you years to master a Pantera song with Dimeback's solos.
If you only listen to lyrics and are turned off by Phil Anselmo's role as singer, then i can totally understand why many don't like Pantera (or if you have only listened to the first four glam albums), but to say that they are overrated isn't quite digging deep enough into their music to understand their popularity amongst musicians themselves.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: January 14 2018 at 03:58 | |
Overrated is an understatement. It's the pinnacle of lowest-common denominator metal IMHO. AC/DC of thrash. The whole "we're southern" thing never did it for me either.
Exhorder > Pantera.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: January 14 2018 at 03:48 | |
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Mortte
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Posted: January 13 2018 at 22:33 | |
All metal is overrated these days. Most of it just bores me.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: January 13 2018 at 14:24 | |
Absolutely not. As a musician I am blown away by the amount of detail they juggle together. Maybe you just don't get it. One of my all time favorite metal bands and I've probably listened to thousands at this point
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mlkpad14
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Posted: January 13 2018 at 13:09 | |
Anyway, all of these things are subjective, honestly. There is a reason they are where they are now, at the top. That should not be dismissed, and if you don't like them, that does not mean they are overrated because again, they are where they are for a reason.
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mlkpad14
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Posted: January 13 2018 at 13:08 | |
No, Pantera is awesome.
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