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    Posted: January 23 2018 at 18:11
I am not a musician but love music.Prog is one of my favorite genres.
It seems that prog would be most appreciated by musicians and maybe I am not a normal prog fan?
Even more so on a forum.So am I alone or I wonder what the mix is here in these parts?
I did my best to play some instruments in my childhood but was really never any good .It did not come natural to me and maybe it was too hard to progress so I ended up dropping playing.
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I wish. 

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I am not a musician and do not come from a musical family. Still, I have always loved prog since as far back as I can remember. 

I think one advantage of not being musically knowledgeable is that I can concentrate more on the themes, moods and lyrics and the overall musical product. I feel like it would bog someone down to concentrate on what this or that instrument is doing or whether it is being done well or in what time signature. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mlkpad14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2018 at 20:32
Guitarist here. Playing guitar has, in fact, made me appreciate a lot of prog that I would not have cared for otherwise.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2018 at 20:50
No, no more than most jazz, classical, folk. country or pop fans are.
Indeed, we can extend this to art gallery patrons: most are not artists
Theatre goers: most are not actors.
Readers: most are not writers.

Etc.

I have known many Prog fans--one plays guitar and sings (and it's not Prog).

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For a while, I remember listening the phrase "Music for Musicians" when referring to Progressive music. I play guitar, Mandolin, Laud and a little piano. I played in a few bands here and there for a while, but I think my main influence in choosing music to listen to instead of music to dance to, was my grandfather, who was a classical musician, and who taught me how to listen and understand music. 
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I am musician, I play guitar, bass and drums, but I am not been almost any musical schools, learned mostly myself. I donīt think itīs nothing to do are you musician or not when liking prog. My brother is lot better musician than I and heīs not liking prog much. And my band of this moment doesnīt play prog at all. I know also guys who like a lot prog but doesnīt play anything.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Squonk19 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2018 at 00:02
I wish too.... A touch of bass when I was younger, but nothing else. My teenage son plays some excellent electric/acoustic guitar and got effects pedals for his birthday. My daughter played piano for many years but that has eased since she started university.

I am so impressed by people who can play instruments. Music - whether prog or classic rock, modern jazz or classical - remains my first love (as a young John Miles once said). Sadly I am an interested by-stander - but it's a pretty good view!
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I thought I was at one time. It has become quite apparent that I am far more proficient at listening to music than performing it.
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I'm a mediocre drummer. I barely class myself as a musician. Can't play anything else and can't read/write music.

I started to like to like prog rock before learning to play drums. The music spoke for itself. I didn't need a musical grounding to appreciate it. I just happened to respond emotionally to it. Once I figured out the meaning of time signatures and key changes it almost spoilt the magic tbh. I almost preferred composition to be magical and mysterious rather than essentially based in maths. I suspect that doesn't make sense to anyone here
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This topic has come up before and the answer is always 'no'.


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I'm a semi-professional bass player out of Boston. I've played and recorded with dozens of bands, but not enough to make an actual living (I'm fine with this!). I always said prog makes more sense if you can count meters, but it's not a prerequisite for enjoyment!

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I don't know where I stand with this question. I've dabbled with music and music theory but I wouldn't call myself a musician.
I was thinking about thinking but it really didn't get me very far.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2018 at 03:33
I'm a bass player. I think being a musician helps you to appreciate the skill of prog musicians, but it's not essential.
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As a sound and recording engineer, it was essential for me to at least have a basic understanding of music in order to know tempos, song keys, the number of bars, etc., etc. But I've never thought that one had to be a musician to enjoy music. Many of my friends can't play along with spoons, but they love prog!

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I don't think one has to be a musician to enjoy prog, but maybe those who enjoy prog are also those who enjoy making music.
I was thinking about thinking but it really didn't get me very far.
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I'm not sure I'd enjoy lobster bisque more if I knew how to make it. The same thing applies to music...but there is and has always been a small portion of musicians who vehemently believes that only musicians who've passed through a certain level of instrumental prowess are capable of enjoying complex music to its fullest (we've certainly had a few of them on here through the years). That is bs though. Enjoyment can have something to do with understanding but I feel experiencing the same thing head-on, without any muffling notions of how on earth this or that note is played or if it indeed is a waltz rhythm, can be just as meaningful.
Knowing how to speak meter and chord is however very helpful if you're about to analyse the music afterwards. 
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I sing, but cannot play an instrument.

My stepson is a really good bassist and practises on prog pieces a lot (Hysteria, Roundabout, YYZ, a lot of Marillion and Riverside). He now listens to a lot of prog as a result.
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Hi,

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Is there no "other" music out there? I'm curious how one can "like" one thing and not the other ... it's all music, is my thinking.
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^ Confused
"Madonna and Lady Gaga are prog, Parliament/Funkadelic are more prog than the Beatles ever were.....Wrap your closed mind around that." said the joker to the thief.
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