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Poll Question: Which following album do you consider the best?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 04:14
Tales over Lamb by a short head.
 
Although Lamb does have Carpet Crawlers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 08:29
The Lamb...
A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 08:55
Went with Lamb on this one.
 Topographic Oceans was kind of hit & miss for me & I need to check out Passion Play again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 09:45
Tales and The Lamb are my two favorite albums ever!!!

1. Tales From Topographic Oceans
2. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway

So yeah, I voted for Yes.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 10:21
Yes
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 10:45
toss up between Tull and Genesis for me

not a Tales fan

voted  Lamb
Prog On!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 11:41
Three great albums. A Passion Play takes my vote.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 12:53
Topo drags on and on
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 12:54
This site is really a Yes fan club lol. Tull Crap on them
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 13:50
Definitely The Lamb!
Welcome to the middle of the film.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 15:02
All 3 albums are overwrought and over thought......but still 3 great bands......and all 3 lp's are pretentious as someone already mentioned above.
Chose Lamb simply because in my mind it has a nice variety of things going on.....while PP and TFTO are simply exercises in how far Tull and Yes wanted to take their music before they pissed off their fans.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 18:47
My vote for Tull here as well. And again I'm not surprised they're losing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 19:28
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

My vote for Tull here as well. And again I'm not surprised they're losing.
Yeah this is the Yes and Genesis fan club after all lol.
Not sure why we are comparing 1974 and 73 Genesis to 1973 and 72 Tull and Yes though.
 
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 19:43
Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

My vote for Tull here as well. And again I'm not surprised they're losing.
Yeah this is the Yes and Genesis fan club after all lol
 

Well I've got the right username then. :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 22:08
Tales from Topographic Oceans may be overlong, and the only song I really love on the album is The Revealing Science of God... but that one is better than anything on the other two albums for me... so Tales.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 22:58
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Tales from Topographic Oceans may be overlong, and the only song I really love on the album is The Revealing Science of God... but that one is better than anything on the other two albums for me... so Tales.
What? Have you listened enough Passion & Lamb? I think they´re both really great, to me Lamb is the greatest album by Genesis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 23:13
I'm with the minority here.

Lamb is good. Not an automatic rotation album, but in the upper 50 percentile of my collection.

A Passion Play is my favorite Tull and probably in my top 10 of the classic era.

Tales I find absolutely dreadful at this point, except for the artwork.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2018 at 23:26
I think as a whole, A Passion Play is the best. To me, it doesn't really feel like there are any particularly weak/wasted moments (I'm sure many would disagree), plus the concept is a lot more coherent (TFTO is just typical Yes mumbo-jumbo, and The Lamb is kind of all over the place). Granted, it has the advantage that it's half as long as the other two.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2018 at 05:27
So it's not that easy.

Admittedly, A Passion Play remains a somewhat uncharted territory for me. Well, I gave it a dozen spins last couple of years, but perhaps it isn't enough to truly understand and catch what's going on there. Or is it? I remember it was always the least listened-to and talked-about Jethro album in our house, my father felt rather indifferent about it. I can see why: musical passages are often quirky, hard to follow, and some of them rather "unmelodic". There are strong sections for sure, like Memory Bank, Overseer Overture or refreshing Magus Perde... I adore Forest Dance, especially how it comes back to life after Spectacles Story. The main theme of "Fulham Road" is always catchy, I really enjoy The Silver Cord where it's introduced for the first time. I could think of more highlights, but in the end it's no more than 50% of running time. What about the other half? As I said, it's not outright bad, but it doesn't sit very well with me, definitely Thick As a Brick has a much better flow.

Tales from Topographic Oceans is such an ambitious project, I really WISH I loved this album. Such a broad scope, monolithic album cover, the title itself promises such a deep and unparalleled musical adventure... Yet it has its flows. Most of the tracks are a tad too long - I believe Rick Wakeman that the band stretched it out to fill 2 LPs, you can definitely hear some plodding here and there. Compositions aren't as tight and focused as Close to the Edge or Relayer ones. The exception is The Revealing Science of God, which I consider a truly moving masterpiece, almost on par with greatest Yes songs, engaging listener all the way through. The rest have some drawbacks, unfortunately - I tend to lose interest at times. I might change my opinion in the future after another hundred listens... because I'd love to buy the hype, for real.

I think that The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is the easiest to get into and probably the most enjoyable. Although it's much longer than other two, it consists mostly of short compositions, most of them having their own identity, breathing their own life. Of course it also suffers from missteps and some plain, unmemorable moments (I'm not entirely sold on In the Cage or The Colony of Slippermen), but majority of the album is a pure WIN. Those ~5 min songs strike home consistently, be it the opening track, Back in N.Y.C., Carpet Crawlers or The Waiting Room. The Lamia is definitely the greatest piece here, equal to anything that came before (perhaps the only song reaching those heights). I love closing ~15 minutes of the album, entire run between Ravine and It - very emotional and uplifting. So yes, I consider Lamb the best of the three, although it's not my favorite Genesis effort - I prefer Dickensian atmosphere of past albums... not to mention their compositional superiority. 

All 3 deserve repeated listens.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2018 at 12:41
I trimmed the Lamb down to a single album. Some tracks don't interest me much. Some of the vocals are unbearable. Back in NYC sucks lol. The title song and It start well then the horrible vocals ruin them

Slipper, Cage, Anyway are definitely the best tracks. Scree, Lamia, Lifeless, Cuckoo, Chamber, Supernatural are other good ones

Edited by dr prog - February 08 2018 at 12:53
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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