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Poll Question: Your favourite out of these?
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    Posted: February 23 2018 at 17:09
I thought I organise a little (or not so little) live album tournament. There will be a first round with a couple of themed heats (this one Yes vs. Genesis, some others to be started soon). From each round, the two winners will qualify for two semifinal heats, of which the two winners each will go through to the final.
I have a number of live albums already in mind that will appear but you can post requests (not for Yes vs. Genesis though, that's already started, I'll make no additions). I'm particularly weak on neoprog, and if you don't tell me what to put in I'll just take some entries that are highly rated on PA. But at the end of the day it's not a democratic affair. I'll decide what takes part and I decide the moment when the result counts.   

Voting is open, Yes vs. Genesis, first two will go to the semifinals (I kind of expect it'll be one Yes and one Genesis but I take two of one band if that's the result).
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Yessongs !!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 17:13
Yessongs of course. I like Genesis live though, but is way to short.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Squonk19 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 17:16
Yessongs edges Seconds Out, but honourable mentions for Genesis Live (just too short! Imagine if it had been a double with Supper's Ready and other stuff!) and the underrated Yesshows. Keys is very strong in places, but represents a revival rather than the classic era. Best not to say anything about Three Sides Live - libel actions can be very costly!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 19:22
I'm gonna be that one guy who votes for Yesshows.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Upbeat Tango Monday Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 20:12
Yessongs
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 20:54
From these ones my favourite is easily one that had no votes... keys to ascension. Many of my favourite versions of Yes songs come from this album. My other favourite Yes live album is Symphonic Live. From Genesis, I liked better the "Live at the Rainbow" album that comes included in the live box-set... it has the better songs that were not used on Genesis Live. Now, that one is rather strange, the CD version only has the songs that were not used in Genesis Live (which are the ones I like better anyway), but there's also the DVD audio version with the whole concert, including the ones that are also on Genesis live (only a different concert), and I guess that would be my choice for a favourite Genesis live album. Though some of the live albums from the Collins era are also very good, specially to get many of the better songs from that era, in better versions.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 22:37
Genesis first live to me! I have always really respected their this move, in the middle of the most prog era where for example Yes released triple live, they released one album live, no gatefold covers, no gimmicks, not even their biggest live favourite Supper´s ready in it! I don´t know better words than it´s kind of uncommercial punk-attitude! Naturally of course I really like all the live versions that are on this album.

Anyway I like all those lives, Yessongs is my second choise although it has said overlong. I have listened Seconds Out only once, have to listen it again one of these days (many times I had been going to buy it from the record fares, always there had been other more important vinyls).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2018 at 23:57
YESSONGS for me
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 09:32
Yessongs huh?  Never got into that...

but Yesshows..   oh hell yeah... play that album all time.  Parallels SMOKED the studio version.. and then there was Gates... AND Ritual

zero contest. .and forget about the Genesis albums...  zero energy or fire.. ony good for insomnia man
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Yessongs is THE live album for me...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 11:34
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Yessongs of course. I like Genesis live though, but is way to short.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Formentera Lady Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 12:59
My favourite here is Seconds Out, with Yessongs a close second.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Yessongs huh?  Never got into that...

but Yesshows..   oh hell yeah... play that album all time.  Parallels SMOKED the studio version.. and then there was Gates... AND Ritual

zero contest. .and forget about the Genesis albums...  zero energy or fire.. ony good for insomnia man


Actually, I like many of the classic Genesis songs better on their live versions... but as I said, those songs were mostly on the Rainbow concert, and somehow left out on the original Genesis live release. And the strange thing is that mostly I like the live versions better because I feel they have more energy than the original studio versions.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 23:11
^I really like all the versions in their first live, just so much more energy than studio versions!
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Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Yessongs edges Seconds Out, but honourable mentions for Genesis Live (just too short! Imagine if it had been a double with Supper's Ready and other stuff!) and the underrated Yesshows. Keys is very strong in places, but represents a revival rather than the classic era. Best not to say anything about Three Sides Live - libel actions can be very costly!

It was going to be a double album with Supper's Ready.

But the label was afraid they would not sell it.

As a fact there's one press of that double album released by Philips Récords Netherland (Philips – Matr.1: 6830 140.1 – Matr. 2: 6830 140.2), but was only promotional and reached the radios.

Would kill for that copy, but too expensive

Record I: 
Side 1 
Watcher Of The Skies
The Musical Box
Side 2 
Get 'Em Out By Friday
Record II: 
Side 1 
["Old Michael" story]
Supper's Ready
Side 2 
The Return Of The Giant Hogweed [Manchester 24th February 1973]
The Knife

3 000.00 € - 13% 
2 600.00 €
article désactivé
Format : Vinyle 33T x 2 Gatefold

Etat général : original occasion
Etat pochette : NA (?)
Etat disque : EX (?)

Label : Philips
Pressage : Holland
Année : 1973
Commentaire : Genesis - De Montfort Hall, Leicester, 25th February 1973 Here is the most sou ... Voir plus bas


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2018 at 01:24
^Really interesting! I have always though that one album without Supper´s was their own decision! Hard to understand record company thoughts of that time, Genesis was just then really popular so propably that 2LP would have sold well!
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Yessongs but they're all excellent.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2018 at 21:51
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

^I really like all the versions in their first live, just so much more energy than studio versions!


I'm mixing a bit the first live and the live at the rainbow albums, but indeed most songs were better live. Only, even though Firth of Fifth might have been better too, having the piano intro left out is enough to not really consider it. And about Supper's Ready, it's better in almost all it's parts, but the middle "comic" section just doesn't work well enough for me... most of those vocals come out wrong, so that song being such a flawless flow of musical passages should not be stained with a not so perfect part within it. And actually, these same two songs have exactly the same flaws on Seconds Out, otherwise I would love them too (specially since I don't really like Peter's singing, and I find Phill a much better singer).
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