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Lewian 
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 Topic: Live album shootout, heat 1: Yes vs. Genesis
Posted: February 23 2018 at 17:09 |
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I thought I organise a little (or not so little) live album tournament. There will be a first round with a couple of themed heats (this one Yes vs. Genesis, some others to be started soon). From each round, the two winners will qualify for two semifinal heats, of which the two winners each will go through to the final.
I have a number of live albums already in mind that will appear but you can post requests (not for Yes vs. Genesis though, that's already started, I'll make no additions). I'm particularly weak on neoprog, and if you don't tell me what to put in I'll just take some entries that are highly rated on PA. But at the end of the day it's not a democratic affair. I'll decide what takes part and I decide the moment when the result counts.
Voting is open, Yes vs. Genesis, first two will go to the semifinals (I kind of expect it'll be one Yes and one Genesis but I take two of one band if that's the result).
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Posted: February 23 2018 at 17:11 |
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Yessongs !!!!
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Manuel
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Posted: February 23 2018 at 17:13 |
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Yessongs of course. I like Genesis live though, but is way to short.
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Squonk19
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Posted: February 23 2018 at 17:16 |
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Yessongs edges Seconds Out, but honourable mentions for Genesis Live (just too short! Imagine if it had been a double with Supper's Ready and other stuff!) and the underrated Yesshows. Keys is very strong in places, but represents a revival rather than the classic era. Best not to say anything about Three Sides Live - libel actions can be very costly!
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verslibre
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Posted: February 23 2018 at 19:22 |
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I'm gonna be that one guy who votes for Yesshows.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: February 23 2018 at 19:50 |
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Seconds Out.
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Upbeat Tango Monday
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Posted: February 23 2018 at 20:12 |
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Yessongs
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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Posted: February 23 2018 at 20:54 |
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From these ones my favourite is easily one that had no votes... keys to ascension. Many of my favourite versions of Yes songs come from this album. My other favourite Yes live album is Symphonic Live. From Genesis, I liked better the "Live at the Rainbow" album that comes included in the live box-set... it has the better songs that were not used on Genesis Live. Now, that one is rather strange, the CD version only has the songs that were not used in Genesis Live (which are the ones I like better anyway), but there's also the DVD audio version with the whole concert, including the ones that are also on Genesis live (only a different concert), and I guess that would be my choice for a favourite Genesis live album. Though some of the live albums from the Collins era are also very good, specially to get many of the better songs from that era, in better versions.
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Posted: February 23 2018 at 22:37 |
Genesis first live to me! I have always really respected their this move, in the middle of the most prog era where for example Yes released triple live, they released one album live, no gatefold covers, no gimmicks, not even their biggest live favourite Supper´s ready in it! I don´t know better words than it´s kind of uncommercial punk-attitude! Naturally of course I really like all the live versions that are on this album.
Anyway I like all those lives, Yessongs is my second choise although it has said overlong. I have listened Seconds Out only once, have to listen it again one of these days (many times I had been going to buy it from the record fares, always there had been other more important vinyls).
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Posted: February 23 2018 at 23:57 |
YESSONGS for me 
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micky
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Posted: February 24 2018 at 09:32 |
Yessongs huh? Never got into that...
but Yesshows.. oh hell yeah... play that album all time. Parallels SMOKED the studio version.. and then there was Gates... AND Ritual
zero contest. .and forget about the Genesis albums... zero energy or fire.. ony good for insomnia man
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Posted: February 24 2018 at 11:28 |
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Yessongs is THE live album for me...
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: February 24 2018 at 11:34 |
 Manuel wrote:
Yessongs of course. I like Genesis live though, but is way to short. |
This.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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Formentera Lady
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Posted: February 24 2018 at 12:59 |
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My favourite here is Seconds Out, with Yessongs a close second.
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Dellinger
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Posted: February 24 2018 at 21:53 |
micky wrote:
Yessongs huh? Never got into that...
but Yesshows.. oh hell yeah... play that album all time. Parallels SMOKED the studio version.. and then there was Gates... AND Ritual
zero contest. .and forget about the Genesis albums... zero energy or fire.. ony good for insomnia man |
Actually, I like many of the classic Genesis songs better on their live versions... but as I said, those songs were mostly on the Rainbow concert, and somehow left out on the original Genesis live release. And the strange thing is that mostly I like the live versions better because I feel they have more energy than the original studio versions.
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Posted: February 24 2018 at 23:11 |
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^I really like all the versions in their first live, just so much more energy than studio versions!
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Posted: February 24 2018 at 23:43 |
Squonk19 wrote:
Yessongs edges Seconds Out, but honourable mentions for Genesis Live (just too short! Imagine if it had been a double with Supper's Ready and other stuff!) and the underrated Yesshows. Keys is very strong in places, but represents a revival rather than the classic era. Best not to say anything about Three Sides Live - libel actions can be very costly! |
It was going to be a double album with Supper's Ready.
But the label was afraid they would not sell it.
As a fact there's one press of that double album released by Philips Récords Netherland (Philips – Matr.1: 6830 140.1 – Matr. 2: 6830 140.2), but was only promotional and reached the radios.
Would kill for that copy, but too expensive
Record I:
Side 1
Watcher Of The Skies
The Musical Box
Side 2
Get 'Em Out By Friday
Record II:
Side 1
["Old Michael" story]
Supper's Ready
Side 2
The Return Of The Giant Hogweed [Manchester 24th February 1973]
The Knife
3 000.00 € - 13% 2 600.00 € article désactivé Format : Vinyle 33T x 2 Gatefold
Etat général : original occasion Etat pochette : NA (?) Etat disque : EX (?)
Label : Philips Pressage : Holland Année : 1973 Commentaire : Genesis - De Montfort Hall, Leicester, 25th February 1973 Here is the most sou ... Voir plus bas
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - February 25 2018 at 10:19
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Mortte
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Posted: February 25 2018 at 01:24 |
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^Really interesting! I have always though that one album without Supper´s was their own decision! Hard to understand record company thoughts of that time, Genesis was just then really popular so propably that 2LP would have sold well!
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Posted: February 25 2018 at 08:05 |
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Yessongs but they're all excellent.
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Posted: February 25 2018 at 21:51 |
Mortte wrote:
^I really like all the versions in their first live, just so much more energy than studio versions! |
I'm mixing a bit the first live and the live at the rainbow albums, but indeed most songs were better live. Only, even though Firth of Fifth might have been better too, having the piano intro left out is enough to not really consider it. And about Supper's Ready, it's better in almost all it's parts, but the middle "comic" section just doesn't work well enough for me... most of those vocals come out wrong, so that song being such a flawless flow of musical passages should not be stained with a not so perfect part within it. And actually, these same two songs have exactly the same flaws on Seconds Out, otherwise I would love them too (specially since I don't really like Peter's singing, and I find Phill a much better singer).
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