The Great King Crimson Ripoff |
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Davesax1965
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Topic: The Great King Crimson Ripoff Posted: March 24 2018 at 11:25 |
Tickets for King Crimson playing at Liverpool, £63.50, ie $89.77.
Rip off. |
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Davesax1965
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 23 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2826 |
Posted: March 24 2018 at 11:28 |
It's the Liverpool Empire, by the way.
Nice venue. But. You have got to be utterly joking about the prices. http://www.atgtickets.com/shows/an-evening-with-king-crimson/liverpool-empire/ Tickets £60.15 - £75.15 plus £3.65 transaction fee* |
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Mascodagama
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
Posted: March 24 2018 at 11:58 |
Prices were similar when I saw them at the Hackney Empire in 2015, but the house was still packed. Like most of these heritage acts they charge what the market will bear.
On the other hand there are eight guys in the band, so on a per head basis it's equivalent to getting to see a four piece band for £35.... |
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progmatic
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 22 2009 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 1785 |
Posted: March 24 2018 at 12:04 |
I saw Crimson last fall in Cleveland and it was worth every penny I spent, and then some. A rip-off is $200 tickets for the Eagles or any amount to see Taylor Swift.
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ForestFriend
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 23 2017 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 680 |
Posted: March 24 2018 at 12:15 |
That's about what I paid when I saw them... granted, they play in Europe a lot more than they do central Canada, so it was basically a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity unless they decide to do another Canadian tour. I don't think it's too unreasonable; it's not like I'm seeing a band of that caliber every other week. A band is only worth whatever people are willing to pay.
As far as the number of members go, Snarky Puppy's charging $40-$50 to play near me, and they've got about twice the members; all very talented too. But I guess they just don't have the historical importance as King Crimson. |
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: March 24 2018 at 12:38 |
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chopper
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Posted: March 24 2018 at 12:46 |
It's cheap compared to the Stones.
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Junges
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Posted: March 24 2018 at 12:56 |
I agree it is extremely expensive, but complaining about it doesn't do anything. It is what it is. Either go or don't.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: March 24 2018 at 12:57 |
Not a surprise to me, honestly.
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Larkstongue41
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Posted: March 24 2018 at 13:41 |
Not a ripoff. Every penny's worth, believe me.
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tboyd1802
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Posted: March 24 2018 at 15:06 |
Agreed. Saw them on the US leg of the tour - worth every penny and then some. Either go or don't go...
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cstack3
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Posted: March 24 2018 at 15:32 |
Agreed! I saw them twice recently, both concerts were among the best prog concerts I'd ever seen (and I saw LTIA Crim without Muir). If you can beg/borrrow/steal money for the tickets, I recommend it. They won't be touring forever, and seeing these gents onstage is magical.
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Manuel
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12375 |
Posted: March 24 2018 at 20:37 |
I would go and see them for $89.77. When they came to San Diego, the cheapest ticket was $205.00.
Edited by Manuel - March 24 2018 at 20:37 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: March 24 2018 at 21:35 |
Yeah, I'm afraid these days that's about right for a legendary rock band.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: March 24 2018 at 21:45 |
Presumably the scalpers grabbed all the tickets? |
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Cristi
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Posted: March 25 2018 at 02:49 |
I paid $85 to see Judas Priest a few years ago. It was worth it. :)
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Davesax1965
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 23 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2826 |
Posted: March 25 2018 at 03:31 |
When I put this thread up, I thought it'd produce a polarised response - on one hand, from the "Yes, at any price" posters and, on the other hand, from the "it's a rip off" crowd. I'm a member of the latter.
I'm reminded of the Frank Zappa parody of the Beatles - "We're only in it for the money". This is not about music but about money.
By the same token, there is supposed to be a relationship between fans and band - neither rips the other off - but that seems to have completely broken down with illegal downloading by fans (and the rise of streaming services which pay the artist nothing) and bands deciding that they're going to charge exorbitant rates for concerts nowadays. Not a happy situation. I don't agree with the "well, there's a lot of them so they should charge more" argument - think of the Glenn Miller Orchestra (or even the sodding Goombay Dance Band) - dozens of people on stage, lower ticket prices. As for the "market will pay" argument, it's sad to see what was once non commercial music charging commercial prices. When everything - houses, cars, even concert tickets are priced at "what the market will pay" rather than "what's a fair price", then you're in a very sad - and rip off - world indeed. Just an aside. The UK being a small place and one of the natural homes of prog rock, we will probably see a lot more bands here than someone living in the US, gigs are easier to get to. So the responses may vary. I will certainly not be going to see King Crimson. The last time I saw Greg Lake was in Manchester, about 12 years ago - tickets were normal prices then. It wasn't a very good gig, incidentally. ;-) |
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 64351 |
Posted: March 25 2018 at 03:47 |
And you shouldn't go see them. It's just that a classic rock show is now a high event, like a holy relic or something. You might as well be going to the opera. On the other hand I saw Stevie Nicks for like thirty bucks, so ...
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: March 25 2018 at 06:04 |
I would imagine that if they didn't charge a certain amount then they wouldn't be able to tour. I'm sure it's not cheap to tour these days. I don't don't think the 20$ shows exist anymore even for young start ups
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Mortte
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
Posted: March 25 2018 at 06:25 |
I will pay those prices, if Crimson will come to Finland. Same prices every foreign act concerts here in Finland. And Crimson is still really great!
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