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    Posted: March 27 2018 at 13:46
Is prog just the b*****d stepchild of rock or does it have a real musical pedigree in the outside world?
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Both??
“War is peace.

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― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four



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Both? Ok, please elaborate.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ProgMetaller2112 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2018 at 14:14
Well, Prog has most definitely had moments where it definitely is rock music. However, there have also been moments where it came from left field and has had moments outside of rock music
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^ Agree 100%. But does prog being outside of rock make it more of an art form than being part of rock? Its just your opinion, but I'm curious to see how prog is perceived by both prog and non prog fans. And I assume you're part of the former. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2018 at 14:41
The question isn't "What is Prog?"

But the answer is: "Not quite everything!" (:
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Like most art/genres that in one way or another falls between two stools or more it tends to have a harder time than the "purer" art forms. Its not rock, not jazz, not classical, not academic, not from the streets... so yeah I think its pretty safe to say that its underrated by many who refuse to give it an actual chance. But then again its kind of overrated by the "prog-believers" so I don't know. More than anything its misunderstood. 

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I saw on a website earlier today where progressive rock came in third(behind heavy metal and hard rock respectively). It even beat punk and alternative. That's pretty good. So yeah, I would say the days of prog being this obscure genre that hardly anyone has heard of are clearly over. 
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Agree 100%. But does prog being outside of rock make it more of an art form than being part of rock? Its just your opinion, but I'm curious to see how prog is perceived by both prog and non prog fans. And I assume you're part of the former. 

I don't think prog is perceived as being outside of rock any more than any other rock subgenre(including jam bands and post rock). 
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Agree 100%. But does prog being outside of rock make it more of an art form than being part of rock? Its just your opinion, but I'm curious to see how prog is perceived by both prog and non prog fans. And I assume you're part of the former. 


I read it wrong. Lol. Yeah, I am part of the former
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If we consider how it is mocked by most critics and a lot of the general public despite having contributed to some of the biggest (mainly technological) advancements in the history of rock music, then yes it is.
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The most important thing here is that Steve gets rid of that scary avatar and bring back the cute doggy peering through lattice.
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We are the most oppressed people of the world, we have to fight for our rights, we have to fund our own nation where nobody oppress us anymore!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frankh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2018 at 00:33
Yes.

It is underrated.
Perhaps finding the happy medium is harder than we know.
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Depends which side of the fence you're on!

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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

The most important thing here is that Steve gets rid of that scary avatar and bring back the cute doggy peering through lattice.
Done.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hellogoodbye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2018 at 04:24
Like the french poet René Char would say : Prog is looking for the livable head.
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Hey, no more vague quotes from poets or I'll bring back creepy Freud! LOL
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"Those who can be made to believe in absurdities. Can be made to commit atrocities!" - Descartes....
Er, ooh crap wrong board....
By me - No,
by the proletariat philistine sheeples - YES!
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