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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

As a young teen, first hearing Rush in 1975-76......Prog meant nothing to me. Not even sure I heard that term or read about it in music mags. Pink Floyd was considered psychedelic rock, and so on.....

Rush to me along with Yes, Tull and Floyd was simply rock music that was different than FM radio rock like Sabbath, LZ, The Who. 
Even when Rush was releasing 2112 to PW......it was simply just great music. I also never had any issues with Ged's vocals.
During that period, you could not find a more prolific drummer that created so much excitement on stage. Neil progressed into a monster drummer and helped push Rush into its own genre....

Rush is essentially its own genre 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2018 at 14:39
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Maybe the header should be changed to "If You're New to Prog, Don't Start With 'Tush'..."

The ZZ Top song? LOL
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I guess you could say, those new to prog shouldn't RUSH it?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2018 at 18:13
They merely adopted the prog.   We were born in it, molded by it--  I didn't hear pop until I was already a man by then it was nothing to me but deafening.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2018 at 18:43
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

They merely adopted the prog.   We were born in it, molded by it--  I didn't hear pop until I was already a man by then it was nothing to me but deafening.

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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I guess you could say, those new to prog shouldn't RUSH it?

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If you are new to prog, start with whatever the f**k you want. :)
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Originally posted by Junges Junges wrote:

If you are new to prog, start with whatever the f**k you want. :)

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Originally posted by Junges Junges wrote:

If you are new to prog, start with whatever the f**k you want. :)

Whoa, whoa, whoa; who do you think you are coming in here and FREELY choosing bands to start with and like? What are you, some kind of human being, complete with freewill and personal taste?! Tongue

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2018 at 04:51
Ok, so where should they start? 

I actually am not sure where most people who are new to prog start these days. I suppose it depends on what they are already familiar with. I would think many would probably start with Pink Floyd since most people are probably already at least somewhat familiar with them. 
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People start where they start, that's where they start!

I'd imagine most getting into Pink Floyd FIRST, regardless of whether the consensus is they constitute "progressive rock" or not. That's how it feels here in the North East USA, anyway.

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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

People start where they start, that's where they start!

That's true. I started where I started and that's where I started.
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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

People start where they start, that's where they start!

That's true. I started where I started and that's where I started.

Isn't it crazy how you just start starting? I started with Yes Tongue.

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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

People start where they start, that's where they start!

I'd imagine most getting into Pink Floyd FIRST, regardless of whether the consensus is they constitute "progressive rock" or not. That's how it feels here in the North East USA, anyway.

Whether PF takes them to prog depends on two things. One ofcourse is they have to be familiar with Pink Floyd in the first place and be curious enough to want to explore further and look for other similar bands. The second is they have to have heard the term prog somehow(either through friends or relatives or through the internet). So basically they just have to add up these things in their head. Not everyone does though. I'm sure there's a lot of people who just think of PF as just classic rock and stop there. I have seen many articles online that don't even mention PF as one of the main prog bands so it just depends.


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"Hear me now and believe me later," I started with Tangerine Dream!
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

People start where they start, that's where they start!

That's true. I started where I started and that's where I started.

Isn't it crazy how you just start starting? I started with Yes Tongue.

I'm a self starter who starts starting things. Big smile
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