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Poll Question: What is your favoured song
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Heart of the Sunrise is good. Close to the Edge is a master work 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2018 at 13:48
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

better of the two.. CttE. Simply the best thing that has come out of prog.  Perfection

favorite...  HotS. It hits my G repeatedly with substantial length, incredible girth, and has the courtesy to make breakfast for me in the morning...


But haven't you said that CttE pop and not prog?

I never said such a thing... ehh.. stupid thing for me to say considering I created the Crossover prog genre here that is now an accepted subgenre used throughout the prog listening world.. not just on this site.

And what I said was it wasn't symphonic prog in structure.. but prog in the form and structure of a pop song.  In fact I just didn't say so.. I showed just why it is.  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are smart enough to know pop and prog are not mutually exclusive.
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Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

Both are all-time favourites, but in terms of the "sends shivers to your bones" department I'd give Heart of the Sunrise the slightest edge.
Yes, this is how I feel Though I love CTTE a lot, Heart of the Sunrise has and edge over it, at least for me.
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Two fantastic songs,I can't decide !!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2018 at 21:10
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

better of the two.. CttE. Simply the best thing that has come out of prog.  Perfection

favorite...  HotS. It hits my G repeatedly with substantial length, incredible girth, and has the courtesy to make breakfast for me in the morning...


But haven't you said that CttE pop and not prog?


I never said such a thing... ehh.. stupid thing for me to say considering I created the Crossover prog genre here that is now an accepted subgenre used throughout the prog listening world.. not just on this site.

And what I said was it wasn't symphonic prog in structure.. but prog in the form and structure of a pop song.  In fact I just didn't say so.. I showed just why it is.  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are smart enough to know pop and prog are not mutually exclusive.


Mmm... I guess I don't remember exactly how you have said it. I do remember you said it was a pop song, with a pop song structure... I don't actually remember you saying it was not prog (or more specifically symphonic prog... but that may explain the confussion). And yes, I remember the explanation about chorus/verse/chorus thing and so on. However, for me if the song is prog, it sounds a lot like symph prog to me. Oh yeah, and I do believe prog and pop are not mutually exclusive, though some proggers may not be so ready to accept it. I believe there are characteristics of prog, most bands don't have all characteristics, and certainly almost none of them have all characteristics in all of their songs (even the proggiest of bands).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2018 at 02:33
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

better of the two.. CttE. Simply the best thing that has come out of prog.  Perfection

favorite...  HotS. It hits my G repeatedly with substantial length, incredible girth, and has the courtesy to make breakfast for me in the morning...


But haven't you said that CttE pop and not prog?


I never said such a thing... ehh.. stupid thing for me to say considering I created the Crossover prog genre here that is now an accepted subgenre used throughout the prog listening world.. not just on this site.

And what I said was it wasn't symphonic prog in structure.. but prog in the form and structure of a pop song.  In fact I just didn't say so.. I showed just why it is.  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are smart enough to know pop and prog are not mutually exclusive.


Mmm... I guess I don't remember exactly how you have said it. I do remember you said it was a pop song, with a pop song structure... I don't actually remember you saying it was not prog (or more specifically symphonic prog... but that may explain the confussion). And yes, I remember the explanation about chorus/verse/chorus thing and so on. However, for me if the song is prog, it sounds a lot like symph prog to me. Oh yeah, and I do believe prog and pop are not mutually exclusive, though some proggers may not be so ready to accept it. I believe there are characteristics of prog, most bands don't have all characteristics, and certainly almost none of them have all characteristics in all of their songs (even the proggiest of bands).

I definitely remember SOMEONE saying CTTE is a pop song in disguise...then I brought up the chaotic jazz rock intro, and the discussion seemed to fall apart lol.
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Close to the edge of pop or prog ... does it matter ? The essential thing is not to fall.
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

better of the two.. CttE. Simply the best thing that has come out of prog.  Perfection

favorite...  HotS. It hits my G repeatedly with substantial length, incredible girth, and has the courtesy to make breakfast for me in the morning...


But haven't you said that CttE pop and not prog?


I never said such a thing... ehh.. stupid thing for me to say considering I created the Crossover prog genre here that is now an accepted subgenre used throughout the prog listening world.. not just on this site.

And what I said was it wasn't symphonic prog in structure.. but prog in the form and structure of a pop song.  In fact I just didn't say so.. I showed just why it is.  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are smart enough to know pop and prog are not mutually exclusive.


Mmm... I guess I don't remember exactly how you have said it. I do remember you said it was a pop song, with a pop song structure... I don't actually remember you saying it was not prog (or more specifically symphonic prog... but that may explain the confussion). And yes, I remember the explanation about chorus/verse/chorus thing and so on. However, for me if the song is prog, it sounds a lot like symph prog to me. Oh yeah, and I do believe prog and pop are not mutually exclusive, though some proggers may not be so ready to accept it. I believe there are characteristics of prog, most bands don't have all characteristics, and certainly almost none of them have all characteristics in all of their songs (even the proggiest of bands).


I definitely remember SOMEONE saying CTTE is a pop song in disguise...then I brought up the chaotic jazz rock intro, and the discussion seemed to fall apart lol.


Yeah, I know, but let's wait and see what Micky has to say about it. He won't let his discussion fall apart so easily.
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Pfft.....The Mickster just likes to argue and raise hell....for the...well, hell of it.

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My two favorite songs ever!!!
But my vote goes to HOTS!!!

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Both are great but CTTE is in a class by it self.
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CTTE!
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Two absolute master peces. I just cannot make a choice
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CTTE
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uh... heart of the sunrise man......... cmon

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I could go either way on this one

both are amazingly awesome

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Originally posted by *willo_stardüüst_ii* *willo_stardüüst_ii* wrote:

uh... heart of the sunrise man......... cmon

??? Cmon?

Heart of the Sunrise cannot compete with the mastery of Close to the Edge
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Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by *willo_stardüüst_ii* *willo_stardüüst_ii* wrote:

uh... heart of the sunrise man......... cmon


??? Cmon?

Heart of the Sunrise cannot compete with the mastery of Close to the Edge


haha get out!! Im sure there's a way we can both be right

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Originally posted by *willo_stardüüst_ii* *willo_stardüüst_ii* wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by *willo_stardüüst_ii* *willo_stardüüst_ii* wrote:

uh... heart of the sunrise man......... cmon


??? Cmon?

Heart of the Sunrise cannot compete with the mastery of Close to the Edge


haha get out!! Im sure there's a way we can both be right

Both are among the most highly regarded Yes songs but to me Close to the Edge is a master work
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