King Crimson vs. Van der Graaf Generator

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 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

 dr wu23 wrote:

 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

 dr wu23 wrote:

 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

 rogerthat wrote:

 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Yeah it sure is and people generally prefer Hammill and his crew to Fripp and Co. Just stating fact based on PA's ratings and reviews

Eh, only KC has a top 5 album (ITCOTCK) and two albums in the top 10 (the other being Red) with only VDGG album (Godbluff) in the top 10 (in the last spot). KC's LTIA also ranks higher than Pawn Hearts.  After that, you've got H to He at no. 36 and Still Life way down at no.54.  If you want to argue over no.36 and no.54, carry on.  It's clear that the top 3 KC albums comprehensively beat the top 3 VDGG albums on popularity.

If we look at it album for album, ratings wise VDGG is the more consistent band. Let's take a look. This will probably surprise many

In the Court > The Aerosol Gray Machine

In the Wake < The Least We Can Do

Lizard < H to He

Islands < Pawn Hearts

Larks Tongues < Godbluff

SABB < Still Life 

Red > World Record

5-2, VDGG on top ratings wise 

You are cherry picking the early albums in order to create a false comparison.....why in order?   ....the simple fact is as I posted that KC overall is higher in their ratings when looking at the actual catalog of both bands which is the only fair way to evaluate.

Not cherry picking. Just giving a head to head comparison. Prog Archives also says that VDGG has 4 "masterpieces" while KC only has 3. 

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Yes,  you are cherry picking....you are choosing to use the early albums in order  only to compare...why?   that's cherry picking by definition.....as I already pointed out...(you must not have read this)...
Looking at the bands catalogs overall VDGG is slightly lower.
And where on PA does it say masterpieces...? That's most likely the opinion of whoever wrote the article not  a PA consensus.....again you are cherry picking. 
Let's get the facts straight here.

Ok, let me break it down a bit. When you click on an album on PA it will have some liner notes and where the particular album ranks. The highest quality is obviously a masterpiece. It goes like this:

First tier says, "Essential, a masterpiece of prog rock music."

Second tier says, "An excellent addition to any prog rock collection."

Third tier says "Good but nonessential"

The last one says "Collectors,fans only"

Look at that 

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Looking at that aspect it's actually 4 'essential masterpieces' for VDGG and 3 for KC. They both still have the same number of over 4 star albums. To split hairs in that sense is simply petty imo.
But that's a judgement call based on albums over 4 stars and somewhere below 5...again that's not a call made by the members voting  but whoever are the moderators based on ratings of the highest albums by bands. I'm not sure how that is even determined (at what point beyond 4 do they deem that to be the case)......nevertheless once again lets look at the actual catalogs since that is the only fair way to judge any bands work....on that basis it seems KC is slightly ahead or at the very least equal since VDGG has a 2.48 star album.
If you want to be pedantic and correct one needs to add up all the ratings of all studio albums....and then divide by that number to see what the 'true average' rating is. By all means knock yourself out and let me know what you end up with.

:)

Poll Question: Which band do you prefer??
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
King Crimson	34	[73.91%]
Van der Graaf Generator	12	[26.09%]
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