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Can Prog Be Prog Without Sound?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CPicard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2018 at 06:15
On a serious note, we can have prog without sounds: it's called "songbook".
If you write a 15 minutes song organised in 4 or 5 sections to be played in a 9/7 rhythm, arranged for guitars, drums, keyboards and bagpipes, but with no one to play it, you can have prog without sound.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote progaardvark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2018 at 10:20
Back when it was cool to make a 25-minute long song that was actually 11 minutes long, followed by 13 minutes of silence and then a one-minute outro is evidence that the answer is yes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2018 at 11:13
Prog without sound? Isn't that the same as saying the space between notes?
"Madonna and Lady Gaga are prog, Parliament/Funkadelic are more prog than the Beatles ever were.....Wrap your closed mind around that." said the joker to the thief.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dopeydoc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2018 at 15:33
Yes, Nosound is definitely an excellent prog group
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2018 at 09:23
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

If a bear sh*ts in the woods, is it prog?

Might be considered so, if it eventually becomes some manure that allows for some flowers to grow!

Wink

My point has been for a long time that unplugging it, will tell you the answer that you seek.

The best example, is how Rachel Flowers takes ELP's pieces and does them on piano and/or organ, and each piece stands up just fine. Listening to her piano rendition of "Tarkus" and other bits, stands out so strongly, that it allows you to find that the music was a lot more than just a hit song for the radio ... a heck of a lot more, DE. 

To me, this is the part missing. Even YES, is not getting the "classical" approach as much, although RW has been doing a lot of acoustic piano stuff these days, which allow you to see that the composition side of it is as progressive in music as anything that we consider ... but too many bands do not really make it, in this area, I DO NOT THINK, if they are unplugged, and this would be a very good test for them.

Thus, it becomes a case of preference about each band and their music, and I doubt that the history of music for hundreds of years is really STRICTLY about the people's preferences at the time. Usually, a lot of people did not even understand the music a whole lot, and many "composers" suffered for it.

Why, do we, keep repeating the same errors in discussing the music? 

PROGRESSIVE should NEVER be about the sound itself ... it should be about the music itself. It's what makes it incredible and valuable to your experience. The sound will be gone and lost tomorrow ... 
... none of the hits, none of the time ... now you know what the art is all about!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2018 at 09:54
Originally posted by Dopeydoc Dopeydoc wrote:

Yes, Nosound is definitely an excellent prog group
I was waiting for someone to mention Nosound. Well done!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2018 at 09:56
It might be time to look for a new prog forum..........

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote axeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2018 at 09:35
I abstained. There did not seem to be a "WTF, Dude?" option. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2018 at 09:40
^ Yes, but it still got you to place your 150th post in 8 years! Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote siLLy puPPy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2018 at 10:02
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Yes, but it still got you to place your 150th post in 8 years! Tongue

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2018 at 19:39
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Yes, but it still got you to place your 150th post in 8 years! Tongue

LOL....he's averaging 18.7 posts a year.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hellogoodbye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2018 at 04:34
Yes, of course, I have a prog album on my turntable. It doesn't play right now and I can't hear a sound. But I swear that yesterday night,I put a prog album on my turntable !
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barbu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2018 at 08:01
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Yes, but it still got you to place your 150th post in 8 years! Tongue

LOL....he's averaging 18.7 posts a year.

At least he doesn't bother everyone with the same post about what he dislikes ad nauseam like some others do.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2018 at 09:58
^Or posts constantly about what he's listening to when no one really gives a sh*t.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jeffro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2018 at 10:07
Yes, you can have prog without sound. Just stand there and not play your instrument for 20 minutes, which is very hard to do in odd time signatures.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barbu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2018 at 10:37
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

^Or posts constantly about what he's listening to when no one really gives a sh*t.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote noni Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2018 at 10:39
Just turn the volume down whilst it's still playing...  Big smile   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote axeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2018 at 20:38
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Yes, but it still got you to place your 150th post in 8 years! Tongue

LOL....he's averaging 18.7 posts a year.

At least he doesn't bother everyone with the same post about what he dislikes ad nauseam like some others do.

Let alone the little fact that 2018 - 2008 = 10 years, and 15 posts a year. Tongue
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