progressive rock in crisis

moshkito wrote: It's OK for you to disagree with my comments, but not OK to make a personal statement, unless you want to do it privately.

Back to the topic: what artists must we delete from the database to get Progressive Rock out of crisis?

The mosh man prophecies are all like a curates egg...He does like to over-egg his pudding so to speak....

Deliberately so...I'm like a hungry hound chasing the early worm....

moshkito wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: Poor, poor moshkito who must feel awfully alone in the world thinking everyone sans himself has no depth or width... but only a superficial relation to this music whom we pretend to love and care for - while surfing the surface for "hits". Just like your comment, I suppose. I seriously doubt that you think there is a crisis, or not, since your posting has absolutely nothing to say on the matter, and is more of a personal attack, than it is a posting that adds to the totality of the thread.

I think my caring and empathetic comment was well deserved. If you had even the slightest idea how the judgemental overconfidence and self-congratulatory smugness in your tone gets in the way of occasional glimpses of valid points and knowledge - you would have stopped long ago.   

Progressive rock is in no crisis.

miamiscot wrote: Prog has been "in crisis" since the late seventies... That said, it's been a slow year.

richardh wrote: dr wu23 wrote: miamiscot wrote: Prog has been "in crisis" since the late seventies... That said, it's been a slow year. Yep.....it had some popularity in the 70's with the big names we all know but it has always been 'in crisis' so to speak. I don't think that has changed much in  40 years. only took us 5 pages to get there this time

But it isn't really true though. Retro-bands/artists exist in all genres. But listen to various 70's prog - you know ELP, Soft Machine, Tangerine Dream... and then Kayo Dot, Secret Chiefs 3, Vektor, Tortoise, Radiohead... (whether you like them or not is beside the point) - if we somehow could send their albums 45 years back in time, I'm certain a 1973-prog connoisseur would fail to associate those sounds as Progressive Rock. 

Saperlipopette! wrote: richardh wrote: dr wu23 wrote: miamiscot wrote: Prog has been "in crisis" since the late seventies... That said, it's been a slow year. Yep.....it had some popularity in the 70's with the big names we all know but it has always been 'in crisis' so to speak. I don't think that has changed much in  40 years. only took us 5 pages to get there this time But it isn't really true though. Retro-bands/artists exist in all genres. But listen to various 70's prog - you know ELP, Soft Machine, Tangerine Dream... and then Kayo Dot, Secret Chiefs 3, Vektor, Tortoise, Radiohead... (whether you like them or not is beside the point) - if we somehow could send their albums 45 years back in time, I'm certain a 1973-prog connoisseur would fail to associate those sounds as Progressive Rock.

ExittheLemming wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: richardh wrote: dr wu23 wrote: miamiscot wrote: Prog has been "in crisis" since the late seventies... That said, it's been a slow year. Yep.....it had some popularity in the 70's with the big names we all know but it has always been 'in crisis' so to speak. I don't think that has changed much in  40 years. only took us 5 pages to get there this time But it isn't really true though. Retro-bands/artists exist in all genres. But listen to various 70's prog - you know ELP, Soft Machine, Tangerine Dream... and then Kayo Dot, Secret Chiefs 3, Vektor, Tortoise, Radiohead... (whether you like them or not is beside the point) - if we somehow could send their albums 45 years back in time, I'm certain a 1973-prog connoisseur would fail to associate those sounds as Progressive Rock.  Saperlipopette! wrote: richardh wrote: dr wu23 wrote: miamiscot wrote: Prog has been "in crisis" since the late seventies... That said, it's been a slow year. Yep.....it had some popularity in the 70's with the big names we all know but it has always been 'in crisis' so to speak. I don't think that has changed much in  40 years. only took us 5 pages to get there this time But it isn't really true though. Retro-bands/artists exist in all genres. But listen to various 70's prog - you know ELP, Soft Machine, Tangerine Dream... and then Kayo Dot, Secret Chiefs 3, Vektor, Tortoise, Radiohead... (whether you like them or not is beside the point) - if we somehow could send their albums 45 years back in time, I'm certain a 1973-prog connoisseur would fail to associate those sounds as Progressive Rock.  Have to agree with this. The prevalent idea suggested in many PA quarters that Kayo Dot, Secret Chiefs 3, Tortoise, Mars Volta, Radiohead etc are continuing a tradition set by the 1st Gen early 70's proggers is at best, poorly researched nonsense. There's an old adage that the homosexual's' worst fear is acceptance. Maybe Progressive Rock's worst fear is popularity?

This seems rather like a straw man to me. From where I stand the reason why these and similar artists can be said to continue a 'progressive' lineage that began in the late sixties is that they are seeking to expand the musical horizons of rock now, just as the artists of the classic period of prog were doing in their own time. That doesn't imply musical similarity but rather the contrary - the continuity is meta-musical, residing in the desire to push at the boundaries.