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    Posted: July 10 2018 at 17:46
Why not have some light hearted fun?

Share your favorite least-favorite apparent prog rock dogmatic axiom:

"It's not Genesis without Peter Gabriel"

I can't tell you how many times I hear this, and it's blatantly false. Despite their obvious prog leanings at the start, they achieved more commercial success as a pop group. They are not mutually exclusive, and it's amazing that some people can't grasp people can enjoy both eras for completely different reasons.

When argued that commercial success isn't the point, this same group of people will turn around and insist Dark Side of The Moon is a cult classic because it sold millions of copies and had mass appeal. Right.

Can you think of more popular instances like this in the prog community?

Discuss.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2018 at 18:04
Wow!!!! There are too many to mention. Here are some that pop into my mind:
Jethro Tull is a prog folk band.
Prog has the best musicians.
Prog is music for musicians.
The Moody Blues are Prog Related.
I can think of many more, but I better stop here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2018 at 18:08
"It's not Yes without Jon Anderson"(this coming from a huge Jon fanboy). 

"Early King Crimson sound." Well what is the early sound? There was symphonic sounds but a whole lot of other stuff too even on the first two albums. 
When you list all the qualities that you despise and you realize you're describing yourself.
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Pink Floyd are "Space Rock"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2018 at 18:35
Originally posted by ReactioninG ReactioninG wrote:

Pink Floyd are "Space Rock"

I don't have a problem with that. They are but they are also other things too.
When you list all the qualities that you despise and you realize you're describing yourself.
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Prog is both overrated and in a crisis because it's not popular enough. Clown

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2018 at 19:27
Prog rock began with King Crimson in 1969. Prior to that, the musical universe was a primordial soup that did not coalesce until Robert Fripp made order out of the nothingness.
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Neo-prog is for sissies.
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RIO sounds like a bunch of instruments being thrown down a flight of stairs.
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Punk rock destroyed prog, completely and forever. 
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The Beatles - A Day In The Life is the first prog track
Short tracks equal pop/Long tracks equal prog
Punks hated prog rock
Prog bands hated punk
Prog bands didn't want to record hit records
All prog musicians are clever
All Roger Dean album covers have weird sci fi landscapes (actually this may be true!)



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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The Beatles - A Day In The Life is the first prog track
Short tracks equal pop/Long tracks equal prog
Punks hated prog rock
Prog bands hated punk
Prog bands didn't want to record hit records
All prog musicians are clever
All Roger Dean album covers have weird sci fi landscapes (actually this may be true!)


Fantastic, lol Clap

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Prog rock began with King Crimson in 1969. Prior to that, the musical universe was a primordial soup that did not coalesce until Robert Fripp made order out of the nothingness.

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Prog is both overrated and in a crisis because it's not popular enough. Clown

Exactly lol!
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

All Roger Dean album covers have weird sci fi landscapes (actually this may be true!)
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^That might be the first counter example I've ever seen from the Dean!
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Prog fans are intelligent
Music that is considered hard to play has more value than music that is considered easier to play
Hit singles are for poofs
Short, memorable songs are for the types of people only fit for bayonet practice (in peace time)
Jon Anderson is a sentient mammal
Bad poetry is the new good poetry
Phil Collins is the Antichrist
Without Sgt Pepper there would be no languages, mathematics, technology, art, fauna or internet
Steven Wilson will eliminate famine, house the homeless, heal the sick and find a cure for 'enjoyment'







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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Without Sgt Pepper there would be no languages, mathematics, technology, art, fauna or internet

This one might be sig worthy. 10/10.
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"It sounds like they're making it up as they go along."
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Punk killed prog.
Classic prog died in 1974.
Marillion is a Genesis clone. 
No Fish, no Marillion. 
Dream Theater should get rid of James LaBrie. 

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No good prog came out after 1978.
Any song under 20 minutes isn't really prog.
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