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mathman0806
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Related to that: Any song under 5 minutes can't be a good prog song. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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[Prog fans are intelligent]
As a general blanket statement no. However, in my experience many seem to be either college educated or in fields which require some degree of intelligence or thinking(ie computers, science, teachers etc).
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If there's anyone who has spent significant time reading the PA forum and still believes this one then they are living proof of its untruth. Edited by Mascodagama - July 11 2018 at 10:58 |
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I was a prog fan (we were using the word prog in Cambridge in 1967) before King Crimson released their first album, so that is blatantly a false premise. It just amazes me how many people think it's right.
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Proper Genesis orthodoxy is that it's not Genesis after Hackett left.
Also, be it dogma or not, I accept the case that Court of the Crimson King was the first prog album. Please don't ask me what happens if you don't accept that--because that's simple: we disagree.
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If this is your opinion, then that's fine, but Progressive Rock wasn't meant to always remain the same as it was in 1978 and before. Progressive Rock just.........progressed. Some people progressed with it and some didn't.
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Agreed-- in fact progressive rock developed in stages and though KC's first was among a tiny handful of fully realized prog, I would cite the first two Nice albums if I had to pick, both released well before the Crimson debut. 1967's Procol Harum also a contender. But I'm pretty sure DarkElf was being facetious (or maybe frippant) . Edited by Atavachron - July 11 2018 at 21:59 |
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The premise of the thread is "Share your favorite least-favorite apparent prog rock dogmatic axiom", not "share your own personal belief." But there is a large group of people that believe that prog sprang, fully-formed, from Robert Fripp's brain, like Minerva rising fully armored from Zeus's head. |
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The Dark Elf
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"Frippant" is a wonderful bit of portmanteau. Almost Joycean!
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
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I wonder if this was a joke that peter Cook forgot to add to the original "Bedazzled" ... it just seems to fit the script so well! Where is ... what's his name ... Drimble Wedge or something like it, when we need it? |
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Agreed. It clearly isn't necessary to be poor or working class to say some pretty dumb things
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Prog is music about hobbits, dragons, wizards and elves.
Really, it is. Trust me.
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This x100. Some of the least progressive minded people happen to be prog rock fans (not stating a correlation here, just personal experience) - heck, MOST die hard fans of any genre of music tend to be pretty dense - and it becomes painfully obvious when you talk to them in depth for more than five minutes. They are obsessed with timelines, details, and demarcations of style over actual creativity and expression. This is usually understandable in 99% of genres - but attempting to confine PROGRESSIVE music? Please.
I said the same thing regarding ABACAB in another thread. I politely stated we simply disagree. That's not enough for some people. They don't like being reminded Rutherford was a founding member, either. Edited by Frenetic Zetetic - July 12 2018 at 04:33 |
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I know I'm not supposed to but...
...I agree with most of these. Okay, I'll try one: Record companies were to blame for the (so-called) death of Prog. (As if Atlantic would have turned down Close To The Edge - The Sequel in 1978. They wouldn't have!) Edited by miamiscot - July 12 2018 at 09:49 |
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"certain instruments are being shunned by prog bands" ...wait
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Prog rock has to be "progressive".
Seriously, that's like saying "It's not shoegazing if they're not gazing at their shoes". Prog progressed from the popular music of the 60s, but that does not mean it constantly has to move forward. |
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'Prog forums tend to have silly topics'.
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With respect to that statement I deleted the last sentence in my reply. I do believe there is evidence to suggest there is at least some correlation but I deleted it anyway.
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