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Poll Question: Which choices will you vote for? (multiple voting enabled)
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
10 [11.24%]
5 [5.62%]
1 [1.12%]
5 [5.62%]
6 [6.74%]
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3 [3.37%]
4 [4.49%]
2 [2.25%]
4 [4.49%]
5 [5.62%]
8 [8.99%]
3 [3.37%]
3 [3.37%]
4 [4.49%]
3 [3.37%]
5 [5.62%]
0 [0.00%]
3 [3.37%]
0 [0.00%]
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4 [4.49%]
4 [4.49%]
0 [0.00%]
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2018 at 10:09
I saw the original first. the remake doesn't have the almost claustrophobic atmosphere of the original. this may partly be because the remake is in color. b/w is in my opinion definitely the better medium for such a tale


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2018 at 09:16
And at rottentomatoes:

INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS (1956)

TOMATOMETER
98%
Average Rating: 9/10
Reviews Counted: 51
Fresh: 50
Rotten: 1
Critics Consensus: One of the best political allegories of the 1950s, Invasion of the Body Snatchers is an efficient, chilling blend of sci-fi and horror.

AUDIENCE SCORE
85%
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Average Rating: 3.7/5
User Ratings: 19,008

INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS (1978)

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TOMATOMETER
94%
Average Rating: 8.2/10
Reviews Counted: 52
Fresh: 49
Rotten: 3
Critics Consensus: Employing gritty camerawork and evocative sound effects, Invasion of the Body Snatchers is a powerful remake that expands upon themes and ideas only lightly explored in the original.

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Average Rating: 3.4/5
User Ratings: 35,169

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So also a preference for the original film, but both very highly rated. The 1978 has three "rottens" and the 1956 only one "rotten".

Fun to look at the negative ones even if I really like both. I have a slight preference for the remake, but we discussed our differences in another thread (unless that was with Friede). The 1978 film was, according to what I've read in the past, part remake of the 1956 film and part a fresh adaptation of the 1955 novel ("The Invasion" is more a loosely based on the novel film).

Here's an excerpt from one one critical review of the 1978 film:

Originally posted by Ted Whitehead of The Spectator Ted Whitehead of The Spectator wrote:

I remember Invasion of the Body Snatchers (X) as one of the very first sci-fi films to grab my imagination in the Fifties. The plot is the basic one about our planet being invaded by a plant-like organism which takes over humanity. The new version, with Donald Sutherland and Leonard Nimoy, is directed by Philip Kaufman from a screenplay by W.D. Richter. All the tension and scariness of the original has gone and in its place is a bit of floppy old cabbage. See the Fifties version if you can.


Well, it is a conservative publication and conservatives tend not to favour change. Plus, perhaps the political allegory of the original resonated more when the cold war and fear of the spread of communism, McCarthyism, was at its height.

Said it before, but while I tend not to like remakes, the 1978 one resonated with me (It was also the first version that I saw). And perhaps since it is also a fresh adaptation of the source novel even though I haven't read it (though also inspired by the earlier film), perhaps it works better than if it was one of those just based on an earlier film films. No matter how many versions of, say, Macbeth that there are, there remains room to come up with an interesting take on the source material.

Anyway, here's a negative "review" (I use the term loosely and for an audience member and I would just call it an uninteresting comment) of the 1956 version.

Originally posted by Scott M Scott M wrote:


The most over-rated science fiction movie ever. I give it an A+ for the idea, but an F for the execution. Just drags on and on and on. Really bad movie.


You, sir, are a really bad reviewer, and I give you an F for execution and an F for conceptualisation.   At least your review doesn't drag on and on. If just one person thinks this "review" is good, then your review is grossly overrated.

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IMDB has the original at 7.8 and the remake with Donald Sutherland at 7.4, which is about how I see them in relation


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2018 at 22:07
I like the four adaptations of Jack Finney's 1955 novel The Body Snatchers listed below in their own ways.

I am indeed referring to the 1978 Philip Kaufman Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The 1956 version directed by Don Siegel is a few years too early for the purposes of this 1960s and 70s poll. Had I set no temporal limits, then both would be applicable.

I like the 2007 with Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig film called The Invasion very much and I enjoyed 1993's Body Snatchers.

I haven't seen Invasion of the Pod People.

By the way, perhaps a novel poll would be in order, Jack Finney's The Body Snatchers (1955) vs. the similarly themed 1951 novel by Robert A. Heinlein called The Puppet Masters (I've read the Heinlein, and seen the movie, but not yet read the Finney).

Edited by Logan - July 25 2018 at 22:41
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2018 at 21:13
Both are so good--  I'm guessing the remake is the one in question (the first remake, that is).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldFriede Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2018 at 20:02
Which version of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" do you mean, the original or the remake?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2018 at 18:50
ahhh...  yes it is not 2001 and high art.  but my vote goes to a movie I saw as a little itty bitty Micky and still today it holds a key place in my social and political conscience.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2018 at 21:24
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I vaguely remember the PotA animated series which as I recall was pretty good, but the Star Trek one--  wow, such a strange and bizarrely funny show.   Everyone sounds like they're stoned and floating in ether.

But my all time fave ~

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2018 at 20:13
2001 is hard to beat....but I also like Clockwork, Solaris, Fahrenheit 451, Slaughterhouse 5, and guilty pleasures Boy and His Dog and Man Who Fell To Earth.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The.Crimson.King Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2018 at 17:19
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^^^ Love Slaughterhouse Five (Kurt Vonnegut is one om very favourite authors)

Same here.  I'd love to see a film adaptation of 'Breakfast of Champions' LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldFriede Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2018 at 14:58
My late father hated SF-movies; he considered them all to be nonsense. With one exception: "Soylent Green". He used to say: "This is what it will come to". He especially loved the scene with the dying Edward G. Robinson.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AEProgman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2018 at 13:54
^Oh man, I loved Jonny Quest!  The episode with giant spider and the tank....what memories!

Anyway, 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2018 at 13:40
I vaguely remember the PotA animated series which as I recall was pretty good, but the Star Trek one--  wow, such a strange and bizarrely funny show.   Everyone sounds like they're stoned and floating in ether.

But my all time fave ~

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2018 at 12:41
^^^ Love Slaughterhouse Five (Kurt Vonnegut is one om very favourite authors), Soylent Green and The Andromeda Strain of course, but the Amdromeda Strain is a particular favourite of those films (been meaning to read the Michael Crichton novel) .

^^ Great to see a vote for Barbarella. She and the the Great Tyrant are great beauties, and it is a very sexy and a very funny film (and th theme song is pure feel good magic).

^^^ You're right about Star Wars, and I think I had meant speculative and or/sci-fi, but all of these are speculative science fiction films. I think of Star Wars as more fantasy than science fiction. Love your choices, and I recommend voting for all of them.

I am a pretty big Apes fan when it comes to those 60s-70s film franchise (the first two especially). Th original's sequel Beneath the Planet of the Apes is pretty terrific for my tastes.

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I even loved the cartoon series, which is similar to the Star Trek cartoons. Have also watched the 1970s live action TV series, though I don't like it so much.

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Shame that the post-apocalytic A Boy and His Dog (with Don Johnson) has no votes in this multiple vote poll (that's one that Dean liked as I recall, wish he was still around). It is on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BDxqhI9qDw
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2018 at 12:09
Star Wars wouldn't qualify as speculative anyway.   For me it's a toss-up of Fantastic Voyage, Planet of the Apes, Logan's Run, and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.   Though my personal favorite of these four is probably Body Snatchers, I think Apes is the best film (though I've never been a big Apes fan).   I do love Fantastic Voyage though, and it is due for a good remake.   Innerspace, a mediocre spoof with Martin Short, was a well-made but pale attempt at a FV reinterpretation.   Actually the original has held up incredibly well considering how ancient it is, and is still impressive to watch.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2018 at 08:59
Friede and I have a special liking for "Barbarella"; Jane Fonda is so hot in this movie


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The.Crimson.King Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2018 at 23:08
Slaughterhouse Five -> Soylent Green -> The Andromeda Strain...
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I didn't know that so thank you. I voted for the others
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2018 at 10:33
I don't know if you already know this, but you can only vote for one option at a time. One should be able to vote for one, then after that vote is cast, vote for another etc. If that doesn't work for you, I prefer reading people's posts than looking at the results anyway.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jeffro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2018 at 10:27
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

 I've made it multiple choice for any who wish to vote for multiple entries

It only let me vote for one option so I went for 

Planet of the Apes
The Andromeda Strain
Logan's Run
Soylent Green
Omega Man


Edited by Jeffro - July 18 2018 at 11:08
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