What qualifies as Prog?

I have looked up bands here that I would consider Prog' "The Mars Volta" for instance and couldn't find them here.
Is there some kind of definition that qualifies a band to be listed on this website?

Thanks for your advice,  yes that's true ,my eye must have skipped over it. my apologies

I have looked up some bands here that I thought may have been overlooked and it would be good in my opinion if they were included  "Midnight Oil"  for instance who were a very successful band.

Is there a process for suggestions I wonder?
I am very grateful for this website as it's an amazing resource : )

These days even prog that is more prog than prog has been ever can´t automatically make it´s way into progarchives. For example new Finnish progbands just can´t be choosen here for the reason I don´t understand. But that´s not anyway a big problem to me.

^Midnight Oil will ever be in the progarchives, no, even it´s great band and really has prog influences. Specially prog-related bands seem not to have here any chances these days.

This site is very comphrehensive, but does have one or two gaps, and receives new suggestions all the time. Under my old account, I have successfully suggested several bands for inclusion. However, I would not consider Midnight Oil to be progressive rock - do really like their music, though. Reminds me of my student days!

SteveG wrote: MarkinSydney wrote: I have looked up bands here that I would consider Prog' "The Mars Volta" for instance and couldn't find them here. Is there some kind of definition that qualifies a band to be listed on this website? The best you could do is frequent a website like Progressive Ears where even bands with just a suggestion of being prog (like Journey for example) have followings and forum discussions.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - July 19 2018 at 08:33

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Cag71 wrote: This site is very comphrehensive, but does have one or two gaps, and receives new suggestions all the time. Under my old account, I have successfully suggested several bands for inclusion. However, I would not consider Midnight Oil to be progressive rock - do really like their music, though. Reminds me of my student days! I have recommended a few acts that got shut down on here(including the Tubes and Lo Fi Resistance)but many more of my suggestions have been accepted which makes me over all a happy camper.

Welcome to the site, and happy listening.

Aside from reading the definition of the various categories in PA, to get a feel for the kind of music that gets included, it helps to listen to plenty of music from the categories. That gives one a feel for it, and one can make better associations. To me Midnight Oil has some prog relation on the first album (I think it's got both a punk and progressive rock influence), and in other music, but it's not one that I have seriously considered for the site (I have only heard albums up to Blue Sky Mining). Incidentally, Diesel and Dust was one of the first CDs that I ever purchased. The only sort-of possibility for Midnight Oil I could have possibly sort-of seen (based on the music I know) would have been Prog Related, but it would not fit our criteria which is intended for exceptional cases and should meet various criteria to consider it.

If you want to make suggestions, you should read this first: Please Read - Band Suggestion Procedure (CLICK) A more thought out and well-prepared suggestion has a better chance at getting in. Focus on the most relevant albums by the band, but can help to mention the ones that they shouldn't check if applicable, and provide links and thoughts on why you think they deserve a shot.

There is quite a lot that I would like to see added that hasn't been added, but the complete discography policy can be off-putting especially when it comes to bands/ artists that have a limited Prog (according to the categories one is suggesting it for) output, but big discographies. I used to suggest a lot of bands, and have been fortunate that almost all of them have gone through (I had a few disappointments and disagreements, but generally it's been a smooth process -- some cases take a lot of effort and some are futile).

Since we have so many categories (or subgenres) on the site, there is no one type of Prog, but commonly there is a sense of experimentation and of pushing the boundaries of what rock can be or strive to be. It often unconventional, draws from and fuses with other types of music, is often electic in styles and there is a diversity in instrumentation quite often which includes instruments not generally associated with rock (doesn't have to be). It can take twists and turns that make it unconventional, and often jazz and classical influences are found in the mix. The more you get to know it the more you can hear it, I think.

By the way, other than searching alphabetically, the site does have a built-in google search engine feature on the home page that works for me.

I like the Midnight Oil love here. Nice. What a great band!!!

I feel the definition of Prog changes every 5 to 10 years or so.  It does not surprise me that regular chart topping bands will end up on the PA site eventually.  Some bands have progressed in their own right. 

Edited by noni - July 20 2018 at 17:50