Worst Rated Efforts from the Big Six

It has to be ELP, although it´s the only album I haven´t heard from those. Going to listen it soon, I am interested, can I listen it whole through...

Went for Open Your Eyes, but could have easily gone for In the Hot Seat. To be fair, Emerson had difficulty playing at that time. Yes's excuse?

Chaser, having just listened to Beat again in full after many years, your sentiment holds true with me. I appreciate it more than I used to (my tastes have expanded since then). I needed time and experience, exposure to more kinds of music, to "get" it more.

By the way, when using terms such as "dire", to me it would benefit from some elaboration (my wife says I'm far too fussy on this kind of point, but I do try to think about the context). Dire in what way? I don't think that the musicianship could be considered dire? The composition? I don't see how either. The experience could be dire, and I guess that's all that was meant -- in which case I would phrase it as "I found it dire" rather than "just dire". My British dad would claim that rock and pop music generally is horrid, and he was a nuanced thinker in most matters (he did mean it quite literally methinks, but then he thought it to be of lower artistic value and less intellectual than classical music, and I might be inclined to agree on the whole).

^^ Questions, I like it, but I have considered Beat to be something of a step down from the King Crimson that came before (and I prefer Belew's Lone Rhino) -- I didn't find it quite as adventurous despite the quirkiness as earlier albums, and stylistically it didn't appeal to me as much on the whole. I would have liked it to be a bigger departure from Discipline. I like some songs off it, and others not so much. For instance, I like "Sartori in Tangier" a lot and love "Requiem" (one that I've seen hated, but then it would be too "out there" for many), but "Heartbeat" I don't like as much (provides good contrast, mind you). Requiem's opening is reminiscent of some other music in my collection, which I can't quite recollect right now. Maybe I just never had listened to the album enough, or at the right time, to let it really grow on me. There is some really good playing, and it is still quirky, and there is interesting music on this album, though. If one is into the Talking Heads kind of scene, and certain stuff by Zappa, one might well enjoy it more.   

I would have sooner listened to other stuff from 1982 in ProgArchives such as Zanov's In Course of Time, Art Zoyd's Phase IV, Jean-Paul Prat's Masal, and Brainticket's Voyage, but variety is the spice of life.

As I already mentioned, though, I do appreciate Beat considerably more than I once did (even though I quite liked it before). I am wary to give other options on the list a proper spin. I liked the Pink Floyd when it came out, but it didn't appeal when last I played it.

Edited by Logan - August 08 2018 at 13:10

I love Invisible Touch :( 

I went with invisible touch: although I agree We Can't Dance is worse.

questionsneverknown wrote: This is a fascinating set of comparisons to make, but it is also hard to rank them against each other.  In the Hot Seat is a pretty poor album, compared with the others in this list, but also poor compared with the rest of ELP's albums (thus, the original criteria). Same for Open Your Eyes--poor next to the others in the list, and poor compared with Yes's overall output. Beat, for me at least, is one of the best albums on this list, but obviously not favored well compared with other KC albums, which might be fair enough (even if I don't necessarily agree). To ask a different question, then, I'm curious what people think of this list that PA voters have created: Do you think the rankings feel accurate? Do you think Invisible Touch is the weakest of all of Genesis's albums? More so than We Can't Dance or Calling All Stations? Is Beat weaker than Construkction of Light? Is Open Your Eyes weaker than Talk? Etc. Thoughts?

I have said also in other thread that those PA rankings are nothing to trust. Just because some of the albums have thousands of ratings, some hundreds some only few. My personal opinion is that KC should not be with those others comparing their after seventies albums. Because I think KC was the only band of those that didn´t stay in the seventies or started to make not always great eighties pop, it could change it´s style to the time they´re living but also stayed as a respectable band. To me weakest KC album is Three Of a Perfect Pair.

Saperlipopette! wrote: I never intend to find out.

Oh, and just to destroy the reputation of my taste totally, Under Wraps is quite a bit better than Lapse of Reason and certainly not the worst Tull album (although it's not among the top 10 either).