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    Posted: August 17 2018 at 04:19
Which GnR songs do you consider to be proggy?


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They certainly have quite a few long songs on the Use Your Illusion albums, and while some of those are just songs with a whole bunch of verses, there are a couple prog-ish ones; "November Rain" and "Civil War" I'd say are mildly prog, while the end of "Locomotive (Complicity)" as well "Estranged" are a little more proggy.

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None, I'm afraid. They injected some pomp and a little circumstance into their UYI set, but it didn't make what they were doing proggy or prog.
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'Estranged' shows some prog potential, although I think the likes of Iron Maiden show more progginess on the arena/festival metal circuit.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2018 at 15:28
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

None, I'm afraid. They injected some pomp and a little circumstance into their UYI set, but it didn't make what they were doing proggy or prog.

totally agree :)

I can only listen to their debut these days, I don't care for anything else from them. 
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None, I'm afraid but I do like their UYI epics.

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G and R are one of the last acts I'd go to for prog never mind entertainment. Slightly elongated numbers are not quite the same thing...
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November rain definitely comes to mind. It's a bit on the generic power ballad side, but it is backed by an orchestra, with a really interesting shift at the end.
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There aren't any.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Padraic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2018 at 16:29
I can only echo the others:  despite some extended tracks on Use Your Illusion, they were simply long tracks still in the late 80s-early 90s hard rock style - not progressive rock.

And to be honest, I'd rather listen to Appetite for Destruction anyways.
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Anything Axl Rose sings is non-Prog. Their ‘epics’ are in the same league as the over-long shlock Meatloaf dishes out. Pompous, Poppy Hard-Rock.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Anything Axl Rose sings is non-Prog. Their ‘epics’ are in the same league as the over-long shlock Meatloaf dishes out https://gearexpertguides.com. Pompous, Poppy Hard-Rock.

Agree!


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None.

They are the anithesis of anything progressive IMO, and Axl Rose is one of the worst singers I have ever heard in rock music.

One image that has haunted me mos of my adult life is that of Axl Rose strutting on stage like a smacked up peacock, in some grotesque yellow outfit and what apeared to be across between knee high boots and leg warmers, at some charity/remembrance event (Freddie Mercury??) I think Elton John was involved.

I saw them at a festival back in the Appetite days, and oh boy were they sh*t! In between falling over and asking the crowd for fights, I would say they are the worst band I ever saw live, after Megadeth and Whitesnake in their 'poodle perm' phase.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blacksword Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2018 at 02:00
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Dont diss Mustaine and his gang.......plz.....


I've heard great things about Megadeth live. When I saw them they had just recently released the album with 'Into the lungs of hell' on it (?) They were just shoddy, mistake ridden and sounded awful.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

None, I'm afraid but I do like their UYI epics.
 
I guess you mean the above 7-mins tracks....
 
TBH, I quickly reviewed that double album, and there is only one I'd consider an "epic", and it's the embarrassingly and ridiculously pompous November rain... All four of the other lengthy song, you ask for mercy after the standard 4 minutes length: your Breakdown is an Estranged Locomotive leading to Coma. TongueLOL
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Dont diss Mustaine and his gang.......plz.....


I've heard great things about Megadeth live. When I saw them they had just recently released the album with 'Into the lungs of hell' on it (?) They were just shoddy, mistake ridden and sounded awful.
Look, I haven’t been fortunate enough to witness a live gig from Megadeth, though I get why you would say this. Mustaine isn’t exactly ‘reliable’. Well, maybe he’s more disciplined nowadays..........
I do prefer Megadeth over Metallica ANY DAY.   But we are digressing from the OP (something I tend to do.......) but I am a follower of Mustaine, bless him.
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Zippo prog anything with GnR, they are a traditional hard rock band period. I never got into them, simply because I was so into Rush, Genesis and the like.

I've seen Megadeth open for Scorpions last year, OMG it was so loud it hurt my ears terribly. And we were nowhere near front row. The show was fine lots of lights and video, the setlist was one similar song over and over and over LOL. I could not tell much difference, but I only know maybe 2 of their songs.

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This is seriously Getting off-track

Anyways, I still think out of any guns n' roses song I've listened to, November rain is definitely the proggiest. It's musically a fairly standard power ballad, but backed with an orchestra, and with a wildly different ending solo section. There's not any odd time signatures or full-on instrumental sections, but it's still a fairly lengthy song with a definite tonal shift as it closes. On the further subject of GnR and prog, I'd say the albums they've made aren't very progressive for the most part, but some of their live shows definitely try to combine different songs into more cohesive and dynamic pieces.
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