Avenged Sevenfold for Prog Metal - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Sorry if the topic has already been discussed, I haven't seen it on the forum.

I'm quite surprised Avenged Sevenfold are not on PA, even in the prog-related category.

The band has successfully achieved a coherent mixture of traditional and modern metal, including elements of other genres (symphonic, music-hall...).

To me, they're much more innovative than most of the "so-called" prog metal bands. Furthermore, there are already side-projects from A.S. members on PA.

Edited by Modrigue - August 23 2018 at 04:03

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I would be surprised if they got added given their history but it seems they have not been evaluated (strangely enough)

The first track is interesting but we would need a full album to evaluate as scattered "innovative" modern metal samples won't do the trick.

Can you suggest an album for us for starters? Thanks

aapatsos wrote:

Can you suggest an album for us for starters? Thanks

The self-titled and their last one, "The Stage".

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I don't know much about that band except that they have the alternative/hard rock tag from their past releases. The new album is supposed to be their most ambitious album. I took the time to listen to most of this album. I think they still have their past influence but maybe with more prog tendencies. The songs are well crafted, definitely some good metal music, but I'm on the fence to decide if it's prog or not. I am going to listen again the whole thing soon.

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Nightmare is a very good album and prog-metal related having Mike Portnoy on drums on all songs. Save Me is the song with the most prog-metal tendencies

Edited by DarkTower - August 27 2018 at 18:58

Squonk19 wrote:

After enduring their cliched metal sound for many years as my teenage son blasted out their albums in the next room (forcing me to put on headphones for my more subtle prog!) and ferrying him and my daughter to a concert at the Metro Arena, Newcastle a couple of years ago - I actually listened to 'The Stage' soon after and thought - actually, that is not too bad - very Dream Theater/Iron Maiden in places and quite listenable.

Maybe it needs more than one album's output before they move into the Prog Metal genre - but their next release might say more about them. Just a thought. Maybe put them on a 'watch' list?

I think the watch list is the best way to go about this. I know the criteria is that a band has to have at least one "entirely prog" album to make it to the list (and I do consider The Stage a prog metal album), but Avenged Sevenfold is a tougher one to consider when given their musical history. Also, the fact that it's not always advisable to be overzealous about calling a group prog just based on a new album that happens to be more progressive, as we don't know if their career trajectory will continue to reflect this shift. With that said, however, if a poll were to be created, I'd be happy to vote "yes" for the band to be included. As I stated, I do see The Stage as a legit prog effort, and past albums such as Waking the Fallen and City of Evil had quite a few prog touches - such as nonlinear song structures, classical/orchestral elements, superb musicianship, etc. So I guess we'll see what happens. :)

Edited by Necrotica - November 26 2018 at 12:40

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Necrotica wrote:

So it looks like the next album is set to come out in the first half of 2022.

Welp, looks like that didn't end up happening Ouch

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Necrotica wrote:

Necrotica wrote:

So it looks like the next album is set to come out in the first half of 2022.

Welp, looks like that didn't end up happening Ouch

Well mixing will be done in August. They say at this point it will be late 2022 or early 2023.

https://loudwire.com/avenged-sevenfold-updated-timeline-2022-2023-release-new-album/

Not a fan of Andy Wallace. I do not like how tinny and muffled his mixes sound, although I do appreciate his attempt at allowing for high dynamic range. He still beats Jens Bogren for sure, so there's that at least.

It sounds like this will be very avant-garde, although I'm unsure Matthew's voice will suit the 78-piece orchestra very well. Maybe unless they do something like A Little Piece of Heaven, but considering their more mature style now, that doesn't seem plausible either. However, I can see how an orchestra may fit into something like Sunny Disposition, which sounds like the direction they're heading. Definitely interested to see where they go...

Edited by bardberic - July 09 2022 at 15:19