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Cosmiclawnmower
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^ Youre absolutely right! I had a real splurge on that lp as my first marriage had finally collapsed around that time and I identified with that mixture of anger, bewilderment and sadness that that lp seems to encapsulate for me.. again I have to admit I haven't listened to it for a while but will dig it out.. Although I love 'Once' and it has some great songs and guests, it suffers from poor production and just feels a bit woolly in places whereas Death or Glory has more bite sonically.
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SteveG
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^ I think that all people can relate to "Death Or Glory?" What's more universal than painful broken relationships?
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Cosmiclawnmower
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Just to nudge this thread here's an old poster I found in amongst my stuff |
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Squonk19
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You have good 'stuff'! As I said a while back - your experiences and memories would make a very good read, Cosmiclawnmower.
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“Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.”
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Tom Ozric
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I recently bought an original LP of Lifemask. I haven’t spun it yet.....looking forward to it !
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Cosmiclawnmower
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Ha ha you're too kind.. to be honest its the bits I cant remember that would probably make the best stories Ah.. British reticence you know; I don't want to sound too much like a certain one of our friends from across the water..
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Cosmiclawnmower
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Its a great lp hampered by 'biscuit tin' production in places.. South Africa and The Lords Prayer are truly sublime.. With the Lords prayer in particular, stick with it.. its pretty dense and repetitive in sections but it is a true work of poetic genius IMHO
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Squonk19
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...Back on topic - just given Flat, Baroque and Beserk a spin on the old vinyl after quite a while - and what an interesting and enjoyable play it was. I forgot the power of 'I Hate the White Man', the poignancy of 'Another Day', the different style of 'Hell's Angels' and one of my all time favourites - 'Tom Tiddler's Ground' - amongst many other tracks. Very nice!
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Tom Ozric
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SteveG
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^ Yes, Lifemask has that effect on some people. I think that its better that Flat, Baroque.. and Stormcock, but I'm in the minority I'm afraid!
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It's amazing to me that even among the prog crowd ol' Roy is only a cult artist with a small following, but that's life I suppose.
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I think that he is more than that, and the main issue is that folks are so stuck on a "sound", and some cheap, and sometimes meaningless, lyrics. When you first hear someone like Roy Harper, Peter Hammill and those extremely "independent" voices that just seem to flow around their words, this is not something that happens so naturally in a lot of rock music, that is supposedly better and all that ... I always like to say, and I am a writer and a poet, that the words are as good as an instrument, and sometimes are what brings the music out ... but in a lot of hit driven things, this is not the case, and the music and the lyrics do not seem to match for my mind ... it's like one goes right and the other one goes left, and this has been something that has prevented me from enjoying a lot of bands, like Dream Theater and other heavies, because their "sound" is more important than anything that could be said and understood ... and immediately they go back to the one thing they do well, and the lyrics get kinda lost in the shuffle, and come off not as valuable and important. This is specially clear in a DT concert when the singer takes a step back, and is not a part of the whole thing. Also reminds me, of the time when Roy declined touring with PF. He knew that it was a one off 5 minute song and he would be backstage bored senseless, and probably thinking that he did not care, or like for some of the material ... which he might have been more polite by refusing and not saying anything about his friends, that helped him right from the start of his career. But, it tells you, what kind of writer, poet and person he is ... he wants the poetic freedom to "live" live on the stage ... and there are many stories as to how difficult he can be to play with since he changes parts and pieces like no one else can ... and you already know that this is because of the flow of the words ... bring up something else, and it is really hard not to follow it up and lose that special sense in the wording at that very moment. All poets, and writers, live for those magical seconds in time ... they are one of the greatest inspirations one can find and get!
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Cosmiclawnmower
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''There once was a man from the old stone age
And he used to follow the weather But now he's got hung up on filling a page Upon whether to go or together And he's been around for so damn long With his whooping and wailing Crushing questions between right and wrong And impaling The best he can hope and the worst he can fear on the Solstices of an illusion'' These few lines from the start of 'The Lords Prayer' express succinctly (for me) something very fundamental about the nature of mankind.
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SteveG
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^ (Snapping fingers) Heavy man, heavy! (Snapping fingers.)
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I'd like to see Mike Judge bring back Beavis and Butthead for the sole reason to comment on Stormcock.
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dr wu23
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One of my favorite Harper tracks.....
How does it feel to be completely unreal
How does it feel to be a voter
How does it feel to be a voluntary heel
I wonder who's it is
I see you queuing up outside Saint Peter's gate,
You can feel bonafide if you ride with the tide
But it's not real
How does it feel to be out on your own
How does it feel to be thinking
How does it feel to be out on the run
With the mindless world at your heels
I wish I had no answers to put to you
Cos they got me so high tied I feel
like most of me has died
And it's real
And outside on the dragon
And inside in the cold
Mammy's on the bandwagon, daddy's just getting old
And through the blood spew heavens
The roar of lust complains:
Please let me in I have no sin, but you know I'm not real
And how does it feel to be the master's right hand nose
How does it feel to be lieutenant
How does it feel to be stood on someone's toes
With a leech bleeding you for rent,
When you say you want a bit more rank
You wanna be a big wheel
You can feel magnified if you hide in
your pride... It's not real
And how does it feel with a white flag in your fist
How does it feel to have two faces
How does it feel with your god strapped to your wrist
And him leading you such a chase
You got one set of words for him,
and you got another for me
You're gonna feel mystified when you're identified
Don't worry kid it's not real
And outside on the dragon
And inside in the cold
Mammy's on the bandwagon, daddy's just getting old
And through the blood spew heavens
The roar of lust complains:
Please let me in I have no sin, but you know I'm not real
And through the blood spew heavens
The roar of lust complains:
Please let me in I have no sin, but you know I'm not real
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Cosmiclawnmower
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Snrk snrk he's got cock in the title snrk snrk.. Finbarr Saunders and his double entendres got there long before B&BH
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Cosmiclawnmower
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Far out Brother far out (puts beads on)
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SteveG
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Another gem form Roy.
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