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Points: 280 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 07:37

Originally posted by horza horza wrote:

^haven't heard ANY of them

That's a shame those are great records, go hunt down copies

 

But I must admit that approx. 95 pct. of my records feature keyboards or electronics of some sort. I'm just saying that it certainly is possible that progressive compositions can be played without keyboards!  
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Originally posted by ummagumma08 ummagumma08 wrote:

That's a silly question, of course there can be progressive music without keyboards, what is important and what makes music progressive is merely the composition and the way it's played, the intruments by which the composition is played play a minor role IMO.

These are all great Prog records without keyboards:

T2 - It will all work out in Boomland

NEU! - NEU! (it suprisingly features no keyboard or electronics)

Kraan - Live '75 (one of the greatest live albums of all time) 

 WHAT!!!!!!!

IN THE T2 'S ALBUM THERE AREN'T ANY KEYBOARDS?????????????????

IT ISN'T TRUE, GUITARIST KEITH CROSS PLAYS ALSO THE KEYBOARDS AND DRUMMER PETER DUNTON PLAYS ALSO THE MELLOTRON !!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS BAND RECORDED ANOTHER ALBUM IN 1970 BEFORE SPIT UP BUT WAS NEVER RELEASED UNTIL 1997 IN LIMITED EDITION AND THEN BY ACME IN 2000.THIS LOST ALBUM IS NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL AS "IT'LL ALL WORK OUT IN BOOMLAND", BUT IS MORE PROG THANKS TO A MORE ACCENTUATED USE OF THE MELLOTRON.
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Points: 280 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 07:53
Maybe you're right (you quite possibly are) I just seemed to remember that there wern't any keyboards, it seems I'm wrong though, but nothing to get that angry about     
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Points: 2530 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 08:19
^ See what i mean - out of the 3 you mention 1 did in fact feature keyboards ( the hallowed mellotron )
Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Points: 3064 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 08:28

THERE ARE MANY BANDS THAT DOESN'T MAKE USE OF ANY TYPE OF KEYBOARDS.

FOR EXAMPLE:

  • ANDROMEDA - ANDROMEDA (1969)
  • AUDIENCE - 5 ALBUMS FROM 1969 UNTIL 1973
  • CATAPILLA - CATAPILLA (1971)
  • COMUS - FIRST UTTERANCE (1971)
  • DARK - ROUND THE EDGES (1972)
  • EAST OF EDEN - MERCATOR PROJECTED (1969) - SNAFU (1970)
  • JADE WARRIOR - JADE WARRIOR (1971) - RELEASED (1971) - LAST AUTUMN'S DREAM (1972) - WAY OF THE SUN (1978) - ECLIPSE (recorded in 1973, released only in 2001) - HORIZEN (1984) - FIFTH ELEMENT (1998)
  • JERICHO - JUNKIES MONKEYS AND DONKEYS (1971) - JERICHO (1972)
  • JUNIOR'S EYES - BATTERSEA POWER STATION (1969)
  • LEAF HOUND - GROWERS OF MUSHROOM (1970)
  • MAY BLITZ - MAY BLITZ (1970) - THE 2nd OF MAY (1971)
  • NSU - TURN ME ON OR TURN ME DOWN (1969)
  • SATURNALIA - MAGICAL LOVE (1969) (First picture disc of rock history)
  • STRING DRIVEN THING - 5 ALBUMS FROM 1970 UNTIL 1975
  • THIRD EAR BAND - ALCHEMY (1969) - THIRD EAR BAND (1970) - ABELARD AND HELOISE (1970)
  • AKTUALA - AKTUALA (1973) - LA TERRA (1974) - TAPPETO VOLANTE (1975)
  • BALLETTO DI BRONZO - SIRIO 2222
  • CIRCUS 2000 - CIRCUS 2000(1970) - AN ESCAPE FROM A BOX(FUGA DALL' INVOLUCRO) (1972)

And many more..........
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Points: 2530 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2005 at 08:58
Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

THERE ARE MANY BANDS THAT DOESN'T MAKE USE OF ANY TYPE OF KEYBOARDS.


FOR EXAMPLE:



  • ANDROMEDA - ANDROMEDA (1969)

  • AUDIENCE - 5 ALBUMS FROM 1969 UNTIL 1973

  • CATAPILLA - CATAPILLA (1971)

  • COMUS - FIRST UTTERANCE (1971)

  • DARK - ROUND THE EDGES (1972)

  • EAST OF EDEN - MERCATOR PROJECTED (1969) - SNAFU (1970)

  • JADE WARRIOR - JADE WARRIOR (1971) - RELEASED (1971) - LAST AUTUMN'S DREAM (1972) - WAY OF THE SUN (1978) - ECLIPSE (recorded in 1973, released only in 2001) - HORIZEN (1984) - FIFTH ELEMENT (1998)

  • JERICHO - JUNKIES MONKEYS AND DONKEYS (1971) - JERICHO (1972)

  • JUNIOR'S EYES - BATTERSEA POWER STATION (1969)

  • LEAF HOUND - GROWERS OF MUSHROOM (1970)

  • MAY BLITZ - MAY BLITZ (1970) - THE 2nd OF MAY (1971)

  • NSU - TURN ME ON OR TURN ME DOWN (1969)

  • SATURNALIA - MAGICAL LOVE (1969) (First picture disc of rock history)

  • STRING DRIVEN THING - 5 ALBUMS FROM 1970 UNTIL 1975

  • THIRD EAR BAND - ALCHEMY (1969) - THIRD EAR BAND (1970) - ABELARD AND HELOISE (1970)

  • AKTUALA - AKTUALA (1973) - LA TERRA (1974) - TAPPETO VOLANTE (1975)

  • BALLETTO DI BRONZO - SIRIO 2222

  • CIRCUS 2000 - CIRCUS 2000(1970) - AN ESCAPE FROM A BOX(FUGA DALL' INVOLUCRO) (1972)

And many more..........





I have already said that I know some prog bands don't use keyboards - almost ALL of the major players DO and your interesting list contains none of them:-

Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, ELP, Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull, etc etc
Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Points: 2530 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2006 at 19:55
The Andromeda i know aint from 1969

They had Extension of the wish (2001) and II=I (2003)

I'm sure THEY had keyboards
Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Points: 776 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 06:01
Wishbone Ash
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Points: 3064 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 06:58
Is there anybody here who knows the late '60s band ANDROMEDA ?
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Points: 12288 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 08:45

Wishbone ash is a great progressive band that uses few keyboards...

Unforntunately the are not here in the PA.

Guigo

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Points: 388 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 13:09

You can definitely have prog. without keyboards (King Crimson immediately comes to mind, although they did have some earlier in the band's history).  But, I'd argue that keyboards always have a huge place in prog. and really deserve to be there for completeness.

Wishbone Ash was good, but they don't seem progressive.  They were just colorful in the guitar department.  The song structures were pretty straightforward (no complex arrangements or non-standard time signatures), more in line with standard rock.

 

 

 



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Points: 132 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 13:20
Prog could surely exsist without keys and synth (Isn't Careless of steel by Rush prog?).....it's however true that keys and synth have made history of genre....so....unnecessary but important (if you pass me this horrible wordgame) 
Look in the mirror...my friend!
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Points: 2530 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 13:32
The moog was invented for prog



By the way, thats not an invitation for a reply along the lines of ...

"Actually, the moog was not invented for prog ..."

Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Points: 96 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 15:44
You say East of Eden, now I don't have much East of Eden, only their 1969 Amogies pop Festival performance in highly trunkated form, but one track has piano.
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