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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Wow, what do you folks have against PF's AMLOR? It's certainly not their best but I'll take it over a few of their albums(including the final cut). 
I agree, AFKC, but 'Reason could have easily had "Pink Floyd Presents" printed above its title as it is kind of heartless. All that's left for it is to be performed in its entirety by the Australian Pink Floyd Show.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Oh. Almost forgot! Pretty much anything by Soniq Theatre is IMHO bland mass produced soulless garbage.

He loses points for ripping off Pat Metheny too on one track. Other than that I think it's good for a one man project but I'm sure there are better ones(not even counting Mikey O).
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Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Wow, what do you folks have against PF's AMLOR? It's certainly not their best but I'll take it over a few of their albums(including the final cut). 
I agree, AFKC, but 'Reason could have easily had "Pink Floyd Presents" printed above its title as it is kind of heartless. All that's left for it is to be performed in its entirety by the Australian Pink Floyd Show.

You could say that about A final cut too and maybe even their early soundtrack works. Then again not all PF albums are going to live up to the standards of DSOTM, WYWH and Animals. 
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Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

I'll take decent music with sh*tty lyrics over sh*tty music with great lyrics any day. IMO there was some real rubbish on The Wall and I can't bring myself to ever listen to The Final Cut again. Perfect examples of what can go wrong for concept albums. 

Anyways my vote goes to Gilmour solo over Waters solo! 
 

Seconded. Dave's self-titled solo album is one of the best things to emerge from Floydiana. 

No one is going to dispute Waters' role, but all one has to do is listen to Dave and realize Roger needed him more than Dave needed Roger.
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^ I quite disagree.  Waters was indispensable in more ways than just dark angst & thematic direction, he had a compositional relevance and depth that Dave would never have even if he tried.   Dave's a brilliant musician and has released some perfectly good rock records but having seen both men live, it was Waters who had the much more compelling and interesting music.   AMLoR suffered from his absence and it is quite evident.
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:


"One doesn't have to be a Waters fan to understand the 1987 issue is an
excellent example of how important one band member can be, especially a mover & shaker like RW. The
tension is gone, everything works smoothly, and that's a real shame. There is also a tangible lack
of lyrical depth replaced by an easier, formulaic verse. I mean when you're rhyming "love" and
"glove" maybe it's time for some soul-searching, if only out of courtesy. The overall impression is
that of a cold, well-oiled machine: a dreadnought that could punch out all the modern, ironic
spacerock you want 24 hours a day if you let it. It's not a pretty picture, and is itself consumed
by the very post-apocalyptic visions it feeds upon. Worse is the feeling we're hearing an
imitation, a cruel pun, New Coke."
That prompted me to read your entire work. Brilliant, thanks!

That is very appreciated, thank you.  And perfect timing ! - -
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Btw, LOL @ Permanent Lapse of Reason.


read the title of my review on the album Wink

I might just have to do that.. the only thing holding me back from unleashed the review of reviews on that sh*t stain of an album is a) procuring it again.. and b) listening to it again. For doing so sort of lessens the story of the last listen being interrupted when I hit eject and threw it out the window in the middle of traffic on I-395
That's funny.  I did the same thing with "Studio Tan" by Frank Zappa (not on I-395 however).  I listened to it again when I actually gained a respect for Zappa's music many years later.  I totally understand why I threw it out in traffic at the time, because I was expecting something like Sheik Yerbouti or Zoot Allures, and instead I got a 20 minute cartoon song about commercialism.  Now I proudly own a vinyl copy.  Funny how things change.

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ I quite disagree.  Waters was indispensable in more ways than just dark angst & thematic direction, he had a compositional relevance and depth that Dave would never have even if he tried.   Dave's a brilliant musician and has released some perfectly good rock records but having seen both men live, it was Waters who had the much more compelling and interesting music.   AMLoR suffered from his absence and it is quite evident.



Well, I can't really penetrate Waters solo. So I do think Waters needed Gilmour a lot. But, yeah, the depth he brought to Floyd albums is what they lost on AMLOR/DB. A Floyd album had a lot of meaning. That was no longer the case.
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^Agreed on Gilmour being a bigger part of the things than we remember...to me, Gilmour has more to do with the "Pink Floyd sound" than Roger who I felt was drifting away from it by the end.

And, personally, I love Division Bell. Up there with a number of their albums. Final Cut is easily their worst and it's not close.
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

I don't think anyone mentioned Mike Oldfield's Earth Moving. I'm very forgiving when it comes to his work but this is just terrible.

Quite poor indeed. Worth listening every once in a while for a good laugh and the excellent guitar solos though.
I'd rather listen to Frank Zappa for that purpose Tongue
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Originally posted by Hotel Security Hotel Security wrote:

^Agreed on Gilmour being a bigger part of the things than we remember...to me, Gilmour has more to do with the "Pink Floyd sound" than Roger who I felt was drifting away from it by the end.

And, personally, I love Division Bell. Up there with a number of their albums. Final Cut is easily their worst and it's not close.


I do love The Division Bell too... number 3 for me, just after Wish you were Here and Animals. Yeah, even over Dark Side of the Moon.
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Right on the money
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David Gilmour 1st solo lp, one word boring for me,i waited at least six weeks for delivery, listened at least 5 times ,nothing stayed with me .Have not heard any other albums,any recommendations ,believe me i wil listen without prejudice.I have the utmost respect concerning all things floyd





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^ Yeah, I don't remember thinking much about Gilmour's first solo... only about 2 good songs, and he's done better. The one I would love him to release on CD/DVD is his 80's live concert (I think it was released on VHS only). It's got killer versions of songs from his second album, specially Murder... and Near the End was also very good.
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Originally posted by grantman grantman wrote:

David Gilmour 1st solo lp one word boring


One word: punctuation.

As for David's first solo album, I think it's his best album. 
There are already 2 pages of disliking Gilmour and his Floyd work, can we move on to someone or something else. 
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David Gilmour 1st solo lp one word boring

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Dave's first is his best, and it is also on the boring side (though not at all bad for a first album of strictly guitar-rock).
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Obscured by Clouds... not because it is objectively the worst (definitely not more so than Kilroy Was Here by Styx), but because of how lazy it was, and you can tell. So lazy they didn't even bother to make endings to their songs and decided to just fade everything. Didn't bother making complete songs, or care for solos or really anything. It was a creative dead zone of sheer laziness cash grabbing, and I really have no patience. I've listened to the whole thing only twice, and probably never will again.
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ I quite disagree.  Waters was indispensable in more ways than just dark angst & thematic direction, he had a compositional relevance and depth that Dave would never have even if he tried.   Dave's a brilliant musician and has released some perfectly good rock records but having seen both men live, it was Waters who had the much more compelling and interesting music.   AMLoR suffered from his absence and it is quite evident.



Well, I can't really penetrate Waters solo. So I do think Waters needed Gilmour a lot. But, yeah, the depth he brought to Floyd albums is what they lost on AMLOR/DB. A Floyd album had a lot of meaning. That was no longer the case.


Totally agree about Waters being the depth (AMLOR and TDB are shallow like a puddle), while Gilmour (and Wright) being more or less the musicality somewhat lacking in a sombre and hopeless ocean-abyss like ATD

I can't help but wonder what would've sounded A Momentary Lapse of Radio Kaos' Reason and Amused To Death by The Division Bell, by keeping the best tracks of each



Yup, Killroy Was Here is also a contender for worst album ever.


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Originally posted by philipemery philipemery wrote:

Obscured by Clouds... not because it is objectively the worst (definitely not more so than Kilroy Was Here by Styx), but because of how lazy it was, and you can tell. So lazy they didn't even bother to make endings to their songs and decided to just fade everything. Didn't bother making complete songs, or care for solos or really anything. It was a creative dead zone of sheer laziness cash grabbing, and I really have no patience. I've listened to the whole thing only twice, and probably never will again.
 
Obscurred By Clouds is actually a bunch of songs made for a soundtrack.  Yes it seems incomplete in a way, but some of the songs do stick with you.  It also explains that strange sounding ending on "Absolutely Curtains" which is the last track.  The movie ends as our protagonist finds peace with living a tribal life and this track featured that tribe which was played with the final credits.  Anyway, I wouldn't consider it PF's worst album and it is far from being the worst album ever.  As far as cash grabbing, PF was far from doing that when that album was recorded as most of their albums were unheard of back then.

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