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    Posted: November 05 2018 at 02:47
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Besides 2-3 albums by Zappa who I considered excellent, in rest I've never got into his music, Yes for me by far
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Yes get my vote. Only Genesis or King Crimson could be their rivals in my case...


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Ridiculous final pairing...zappa isn't in the same class as the yes men...Howe a far superior string-smith for a start off...
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Yes, I vote for Zappa. Who else ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chaser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2018 at 04:34
Yes!

Very few other artists would stand a chance of beating them in my assessment.

Zappa isn't one of them
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None of these are among my personal favorites but I do enjoy most of their classics - but I think Zappa has more of them.... more classics I mean
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Ridiculous final pairing...zappa isn't in the same class as the yes men...

Agreed. That's why Zappa gets my vote...
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Yes gets the nod.
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Zappa just to be ornery
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2018 at 06:53
Originally posted by tboyd1802 tboyd1802 wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Ridiculous final pairing...zappa isn't in the same class as the yes men...


Agreed. That's why Zappa gets my vote...


Haha. Touché.

While I enjoy several Yes albums, Zappa also gets my vote. Yes' Fragile was one of the most important Prog albums to me in my teens, but hearing "Peaches en Regalia" on classic rock radio (what was called The Electric Lunch) was one of those experiences that led me to explore a lot of interesting music and played a part in me finding my way here years later (I found it so joyous). While Zappa is hit or miss for me, I posted this in another thread, and this is a good example of what I love about certain music by Zappa (generally I prefer his instrumentals).



As for the pairing being ridiculous, I disagree (but I try to keep an open mind as I could be convinced to change my mind with the right arguments -- I'm no musicologist). While I would have loved to see Can make it to the end, for this World Cup with one band/artist per country, I think having Zappa up against Yes is a very sensible pairing (that said, King Crimson would have been my choice for the British representative,or maybe Pink Floyd even if not so quintessentially Prog). Zappa is a legend in rock, has been very culturally significant I would argue, and I would think Zappa to be more historically significant to 20th Century music overall than Yes, and his contributions to progressive rock forms are very significant. I also would have thought that Zappa would have had the best chance of the choices to give Yes a run for its money.

I can't think of a better one from outside the UK to pair against Yes in the finals than Zappa. Out of curiosity, what would be the last (EDIT, I mean LEAST, not last) ridiculous pairing for the finals in people's minds where they think that the non-UK choice could potentially give the UK choice some decent competition (noting that only one of the finalists could come from the UK)? Some have said that Rush vs. Yes would have made the most sense, but I don't think that Rush would fare that well. Perhaps some other non-UK bands included in prog categories could be paired against Yes, and the one that does the best against Yes wins.

By the way, here's a BBC Radio 4 documentary available on BBC Sounds: Freak Out! The Frank Zappa Story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00770gq

Listened to another the other day there on Kraftwerk: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00899w2

Not sure if they have one on Yes there.

Edited by Logan - November 05 2018 at 07:27
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote irrelevant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2018 at 07:21
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Ridiculous final pairing...zappa isn't in the same class as the yes men...Howe a far superior string-smith for a start off...
I dunno man, many consider Frank one of the greatest of all-time; I certainly do. 

That being said I prefer Yes slightly more overall, as I think they're more consistent. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2018 at 07:25
not surprised by the final poll, seeing the bands throughout the polls, it's kinda predictable
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love some Zappa

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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Ridiculous final pairing...zappa isn't in the same class as the yes men...Howe a far superior string-smith for a start off...

According to Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Guitarists Howe is at 69 & Zappa is at 22. Not that I rate RS for anything but to dismiss Zappa's playing in such an offhand way is remarkable.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2018 at 08:13
The classic 70's period YES was at the top, after that, Drama an on, not so much (in fact, 80's Yes is quite simplistic and boring sometimes). Zappa was always more consistent, though others might disagree, and his output was amazing, so ZAPPA gets my vote. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NutterAlert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2018 at 08:53
Lost all faith in all polls post Brexit, but surely Zappa is in a totally different class to the Accrington milkman and his mates from Yes.

Based on this I am sure Yes will win by a landslide...ho hum!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote M27Barney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2018 at 09:04
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Ridiculous final pairing...zappa isn't in the same class as the yes men...Howe a far superior string-smith for a start off...


According to Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Guitarists Howe is at 69 & Zappa is at 22. Not that I rate RS for anything but to dismiss Zappa's playing in such an offhand way is remarkable.

That list is a joke. Right? I would concede that Hendrix was probably no 1 on innovation alone. But after that? All bets are off...
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