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grantman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2015 Location: CANADA Status: Offline Points: 732 |
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al stewart is progressive rock or not ,welcome any feedback merry christmas to whoever reads this post. grant year of the cat ,time passages ,past,present and future the song nostradamus i feel is very prog related by the story
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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Al Steward who did Year of the Cad? Prod rock for sure.
Merry Christmas ![]() Edited by Mascodagama - December 24 2018 at 16:14 |
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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At least would make it as prog-related.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Does it matter or not if you like the music???
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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TCat ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 07 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 11612 |
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I don't think he was totally Prog, but he definitely had some songs that were progressive and also had some influence from Alan Parsons.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Online Points: 13391 |
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Progish. Just a smidgen. Depends on the album.
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uduwudu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2603 |
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Probably the prog folk category. Love Chronicles might help there...
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30304 |
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This will get deleted as all threads of this type do so not a lot of point replying but hey ho YES . I've been a fan for a while. Past ,Present and Future would be Prog Folk Last Days of The Century and Year Of The Cat are Crossover BUT he's been blocked before so it's not happening. |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30304 |
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btw did you know that Al grew up in the same place as Bob Fripp (Wimbourne , Dorset, England) and even had guitar lessons from him?
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20642 |
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The PF team weighed him a couple of times.... Yes, one or two of his albums are worthy of PA's PF entry (Love Chronicles and PP&F), but it's really borderline (not aware of what he's done since the early 80's, though) |
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Same---
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cemego ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 18 2010 Location: Philadelphia PA Status: Offline Points: 523 |
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I thought Al stewart and robert fripp shared the same guitar teacher. Also Stewart's best albums were produced by alan parsons.
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9179 |
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love Al Stewart, seen him live in the distant past and in recent years but he is borderline as far as prog folk goes. Like I have said before, so many artists were somewhat prog in the 1970s, since prog was a widespread genre then. Serious artists would have at least dabbled in it, even Elton John and Chris De Burgh for instance.
Stewart's Parsons produced albums were the most coherent and certainly had prog elements, like the brilliant "One Stage Before" from Year of the Cat and the hauntingly beautiful "Life in Dark Water" from Time Passages. But I don't see him as more than peripherally prog nor as having had a prog phase.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 18057 |
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Everybody can be "prog-related". I hear his name and I don't associate anything he has recorded as prog
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LAM-SGC ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2018 Location: se Status: Offline Points: 1551 |
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pop singer/songwriter.
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9179 |
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he may not be prog but to label him pop does a disservice to his credentials as a folk artist. There are few if any more authentic students of history than Al Stewart. His story songs are hardly the stuff of pop. I will concede that his most successful albums crossed over into pop, but the folk roots were always there and generally easy to discern
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30304 |
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I am constantly surprised that people have not heard The Last Days Of The Century . One of my favourite eighties albums. Best Al Stewart album imo. Quite a lot of people on that album including a young Tori Amos. The Alan Parsons influence is not a biggie really. The introduction of Peter White to his band was the most important change. Great guitarist who also helped Al massively on the arrangement side of his music. After their partnership ( it was that) ended in the 90's it was a struggle for Al I believe to come up with anything interesting sadly.
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20642 |
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Your reply drew my attention... Yes,
I'm not aware of AS' post-70's works, so I'm currently listening to
that album on YT >> not very impressed by the 80's sonics, but
there's been much worse done: Tull, Yes and Genesis... It rates as his
worst album on RYM , BTW However,
the Parsons-era in AS' career I'm thinking of is from the Year of The
Cat and Time Passages (those were his Hypgnosis days as well) and that
means his commercial heydays (often on the FM radio airwaves) ============== BTW,
for years, I searched for that delightful Eagles tracks called On The
Border, and finding that the band's version was a piece of crap... Until
about 10 years ago, I finally understood it was Al Stewart's song I
loved. Silly me ![]() ![]() ============= I also agree that qualifying AS as pop singer is a lack of respect... He's much worthier than that. ![]() And
I agree with Ken: in some ways, Chris DeBurgh took much inspiration fom
AS, especially in his "proggier" (lack of better word as I write)
moments. Edited by Sean Trane - March 25 2025 at 11:52 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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grantman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2015 Location: CANADA Status: Offline Points: 732 |
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Favorite song on last days of the century toss up between Josephine baker and red toupee not a fan of al using a drum machine, but i guess everybody was back then
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30304 |
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^ WOW 'drum machine' really??! Actually the great session drummer Vinnie Coulaiuta played on the album (except Helen and Cassandra which was Steve Chapman) . Style wise Drums could be a little stiff in the eighties but the drumming on this album is plenty fluid enough for me. I love his drumming on Where Are They Now especially, an absolute classic Al Stewart track. Also Tim Renwick was involved and Tori Amos was one of the three backing singers. |
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