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After listening to it on Spotify, here are my impressions:

-Definitely a challenging album - very long complex pieces. One of those albums that feels like it will require repeated listenings to get a good feel for.

-These guys (and girl) have a really enjoyable and interesting sound. I don't really like the term "retro-prog" since it has a bit of a negative connotation - although there are a lot of vintage keyboards on this, on the whole they have their own sound. Sure, every once in a while I get reminded of King Crimson or something, but it's clear to me that this isn't a "clone" band (well, except for obvious similarities to Anglagard due to shared members). The heavy use of Mellotron probably contributes to its "retro" label, although I really enjoyed how they used it in a way that sounds very "metal", as if a typical prog-metal band would do those parts on guitar. Didn't mind the vocals at all - I felt like she could have been more prominent, compositionally.

-That being said, I didn't really get the impression that each piece had its own identity. Obviously there's the little 2 minute piece vs the 10+ minute pieces, and the one song with lyrics vs the instrumentals, but it felt like each piece was more of the same. To me, this is one factor which would prevent me from giving it 5 stars - although as mentioned above, perhaps repeated listenings will help me understand the album a bit more. But I think each piece on its own (God forbid... enjoying music out of the context of a full album!) has enjoyable and redeeming qualities.
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Wonderful album, truly a modern progressive rock effort. Will be in my top 2 for 2018. 
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Listened to a few songs, not my cup of tea at all, however the vocals are bloody awful.
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What an amazing one really. Shocked
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Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Listened to a few songs, not my cup of tea at all, however the vocals are bloody awful.

I think you'll find yourself in the minority with this one, my friend Wink

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Originally posted by DamoXt7942 DamoXt7942 wrote:

What an amazing one really. Shocked

You just bumped it up to #11 on the Top 250.

It does make me wonder how in the world that could be possible.

A Drop Of Light only has 144 ratings and sits at #11.

Fragile by Yes has 3312 ratings and sits at #12.

I understand collabs and admins have stronger stars but WOW!!!! 

This is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!



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It'll probably make my top 10 on the year

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On first impression I like what I'm hearing. I'm not a big fan of Anglagard, but there's much more here in terms of atmosphere and emotion that resonates with me (whatever that tells about meCool). One major association for me is the Symphonic Pictures album of SFF. The vocals are OK and well used in my opinion, and I'm normally easily annoyed by bad vocals.

That said, although this is a very well done appealing album, it is too retro and not innovative enough for my taste to be counted among the very best, I'd probably give it a solid four stars. 

Thinking about it a bit more, I'm actually rather curious about whether...
a) with more time this will grow into something really great, in 10 years or so like an old friend I am always happy to go back to, or
b) in the long run pleasure will be affected by the impression that there's still too much showing off, complexity for complexity's sake and "we do it because we can" on this album.
I agree that the album needs far more airtime for finding this out, but will I grant it that? I can tell you in 10 years. Tongue


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Listened to a few songs, not my cup of tea at all, however the vocals are bloody awful.

I think you'll find yourself in the minority with this one, my friend Wink
 
Maybe. But that is irrelevant and won't change my opinion of the vocals, which completely put me off listening to any more anyway.  
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

On first impression I like what I'm hearing. I'm not a big fan of Anglagard, but there's much more here in terms of atmosphere and emotion that resonates with me (whatever that tells about meCool). One major association for me is the Symphonic Pictures album of SFF. The vocals are OK and well used in my opinion, and I'm normally easily annoyed by bad vocals.

That said, although this is a very well done appealing album, it is too retro and not innovative enough for my taste to be counted among the very best, I'd probably give it a solid four stars. 

Thinking about it a bit more, I'm actually rather curious about whether...
a) with more time this will grow into something really great, in 10 years or so like an old friend I am always happy to go back to, or
b) in the long run pleasure will be affected by the impression that there's still too much showing off, complexity for complexity's sake and "we do it because we can" on this album.
I agree that the album needs far more airtime for finding this out, but will I grant it that? I can tell you in 10 years. Tongue

Think I'm landing in the same spot.


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Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

Definitely a challenging album - very long complex pieces. One of those albums that feels like it will require repeated listenings to get a good feel for.
 
I agree with this. It took a few listens for it to go from being interesting to resonating with me. And even after many listens, I still haven't fully grokked the album.
 
 
 
 
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I only got it recently and if my experience with Anglagard is any guide (love/hate relationship for many years) it may take a decade before I really know what I think of it. For now it's probably in my top ten this year but not my top five. One can't fault the impeccable musicianship and beautifully constructed compositions - and as with Anglagard, I feel the players have an almost classical propriety of approach combined with the ability to strike hard but precisely like a good metal band. Much beauty but little warmth, much arse-kicking but no “rocking” (...in the right mood I don't mind this at all). And there's a core conservatism of approach that to me feels a bit limiting - the integration of zeuhl / RIO elements does not disturb this impression - let's be honest, these stylings can be used as just another flavour of retro at this point. (Aside: I always felt that Mattias was the only one who brought an element of freedom and wildness to Anglagard. Obviously he is not involved here).
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Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Listened to a few songs, not my cup of tea at all, however the vocals are bloody awful.

I think you'll find yourself in the minority with this one, my friend Wink
 
Maybe. But that is irrelevant and won't change my opinion of the vocals, which completely put me off listening to any more anyway.  

Yeah, i know how that goes. Sometimes vocals prevent me from taking it in. I'm just saying, you're definately the only one i've heard say anything bad about this album! 

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:


Yeah, i know how that goes. Sometimes vocals prevent me from taking it in. I'm just saying, you're definately the only one i've heard say anything bad about this album! 
 

eeeerrr....NO! Prog-Jester said this on page 1. "Could've made my top-2018 if not for annoying vocals." Smile
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Definitely in my 2018 top 10.   I find the combination of symphonic, RIO-Avant, and Zeuhl intriguing and addictive.  I ordered physical copy.  



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I just gave the album a quick listen on YouTube to see what all the fuss has been about, and though indeed it's very good, it didn't really grab me nor made me love it. I guess I'll give it a few more listens to make up my mind if I'm still missing something and decide to buy it, but so far I definitley like Hybris much better.
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While I don't think it's quite a masterpiece, it's still a great album that I've listened to quite a lot lately, and can definitely see why it's as loved as it is.
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Sorry guys, but this is not for me. No way!
I tried it a couple of times, but no...
Same thing stands for Wobbler's album as well....
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Also, important fact is that I don't like Anglagard...
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Originally posted by Kempokid Kempokid wrote:

While I don't think it's quite a masterpiece, it's still a great album that I've listened to quite a lot lately, and can definitely see why it's as loved as it is.

Explain what doesn't make it a masterpiece.

I think a lot of comments and reviews tend to focus on personal tastes instead of looking at the work in its own terms. I personally think this IS a masterpiece because it a flawlessly constructed symphonic prog album. Are there other albums i'd rather listen to for my own enjoyment? You bet, however that doesn't diminish from the fact that this album tackles all the prog sensibilites and complexities and adds some new elements to bring it into the modern world. For example, there are albums i consider masterpieces like Genesis' SEBTP but i rarely listen to it because it's not my favorite album to enjoy. 

Generally speaking, i go by the first definition of masterpiece and ALL TRAPS ON EARTH constructed an outstanding work on this debut. Just my take on things Wink



 

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