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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 03:20
Le Orme just over PFM.

Alphataurus would be a nice addition to this selection. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 03:33
I love all these albums but voted for Area. That was one hell of a unique debut album!

My personal Italiano faves from 73 include:
Cervello - Melos
Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries
Aktuala - s/t
Rocky’s Filj - Storie di Uomini de non
Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz
Blocco Mentale - Poa
Pholas Dactylus - Concerto delle Menti
Metamorfosi - Inferno
Campo di Marte - s/t
De De Lind - Io Sono...
Dedalus - s/t
Dalton - Rifflesioni: Idea d’Infinito
Toro Torquati - Gli Occhi di un Bambino
L’Uovo di Colombo - s/t
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 04:34
^ They good albums.......but how awesome is that Dalton release   
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Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

I see London has changed to Italy, Lewian! Hope it goes well... Which part of Italia? Hope the wine is of a good standard!

Bologna... I'm actually more of a foodie than a drinker but Bologna's quite right in that respect.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 05:57
^ nice.  Got the f**k out of dodge while you could ehh.  

^^^ great list David..  I might add one of my personal favs. A top 10'r fav of all RPI albums. What a dark and vicious little album. with more balls than the average prog band could dream of possessing..




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hellogoodbye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 06:00
Can't choose among the first four. No vote.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 06:19
All great albums, but to me Arbeit Macht Frei stands head and shoulders above the rest. Every time I listen to it, I wonder at how fresh it still sounds. One of the very best debut albums ever without a doubt. I also endorse my other half's recommendation of Jumbo's Vietato ai minori di 18 anni?. It's a pity most people on this forum (and elsewhere for that matter) won't get to appreciate the lyrics, which alone are enough to debunk the myth that prog is about elves, dragons and wizards. "Specchio" is like a punch in the gut - a tale of loneliness and marginalization more direct and effective that anything Peter Hammill has ever written.

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

I see London has changed to Italy, Lewian! Hope it goes well... Which part of Italia? Hope the wine is of a good standard!

Bologna... I'm actually more of a foodie than a drinker but Bologna's quite right in that respect.


Bologna is one of my favourite cities in Italy, and I hope one day I'll be able to visit it again. It is heartwarming to see that people are moving there from abroad, seen as my fellow Italians seem to think they are living in some sort of hell on earthCry.
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hahhaah.. yeah they are an odd bunch in that way.

oh and by the way.. god you are so hot...
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Between PFM, Banco and Le Orme, I choose PFM, specially Per un Amico, which introduced me to the world of Italian Progressive music of the time.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 09:59
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:


Bologna is one of my favourite cities in Italy, and I hope one day I'll be able to visit it again. It is heartwarming to see that people are moving there from abroad, seen as my fellow Italians seem to think they are living in some sort of hell on earthCry.

I was in Bologna already for three months in 2011 as a visitor in the dept. where I am now working. I absolutely loved it. I know a lot of Italians work-wise for quite some time. Some Italians are indeed very skeptical about why anyone would want to move to Italy, and they told me that it's great for visitors but it's something quite different to live and work there. I have yet to find out. Hardly anyone has left the department between 2011 and now, and surely most of them could find something good abroad if they wanted, so it can't be that bad. Smile 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 10:11
I have all of these albums in my collection and like all of them. I considered voting for Zarathustra, but I chose Arbeit Macht Frei despite preferring Caution Radiation Area and Crac! Area is one of my very favourite bands (Le Ome, PFM and Banco del... were the first ones I got into).

My Italian faves from 1973 include:

Battiato's Sulle Corde di Aries, Alphataurus s/t, Dedalus' s/t and Ennio Morricone's Un uomo da rispettare (I listed it as 1972 in the video and one might question the "progressiveness") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZDkePQOGiY



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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

debunk the myth that prog is about elves, dragons and wizards.
I've been checking out all things prog since my teens - now can someone please steer me towards some of these legendary progalbums about elves, dragons and wizards? I'd really like to hear at least one of them someday.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 15:21
Went with Museo. 

Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Alphataurus would be a nice addition to this selection.

Were it so, I'd vote for that!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mascodagama Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 16:28
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

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myth that prog is about elves, dragons and wizards.
I've been checking out all things prog since my teens - now can someone please steer me towards some of these legendary progalbums about elves, dragons and wizards? I'd really like to hear at least one of them someday.
You could try Blind Guardian's Nightfall In Middle Earth. I mean it's terrible, but you could.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 16:43
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

debunk the
myth that prog is about elves, dragons and wizards.
I've been checking out all things prog since my teens - now can someone please steer me towards some of these legendary progalbums about elves, dragons and wizards? I'd really like to hear at least one of them someday.
You could try Blind Guardian's Nightfall In Middle Earth. I mean it's terrible, but you could.



I'd rather play Bo Hansson's Music Inspired by Lord of the Rings or Uriah Heep's Demons and Wizards.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iluvmarillion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2019 at 22:40
Per un amico is one of the greatest albums of all time. Although Photos of Ghosts features some of the same tracks the latter isn't as good.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

debunk the
myth that prog is about elves, dragons and wizards.
I've been checking out all things prog since my teens - now can someone please steer me towards some of these legendary progalbums about elves, dragons and wizards? I'd really like to hear at least one of them someday.
You could try Blind Guardian's Nightfall In Middle Earth. I mean it's terrible, but you could.

I'd rather play Bo Hansson's Music Inspired by Lord of the Rings or Uriah Heep's Demons and Wizards.
Ah right thanks! I already got that Bo Hansson-album of course... I don't think the-prog myth stems from an instrumental album peaking at 34th in the UK and 154 in the US - or a 1998-album. So the guilty one has got to be that Heep-album I guess (although mainly heavy rock isn't it?)... which is actually in my vinyl-collection but I've never really listened to (another one bougth for less than the price of a pack of gum).
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... and I landed on Area's album myself. Although it's a closer race for me than it seem for Raff - my reason for giving it my vote is pretty much the same.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote omphaloskepsis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2019 at 10:10
Area.   I own at least 20 Italian albums from 73.   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2019 at 10:12
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

debunk the
myth that prog is about elves, dragons and wizards.
I've been checking out all things prog since my teens - now can someone please steer me towards some of these legendary progalbums about elves, dragons and wizards? I'd really like to hear at least one of them someday.
You could try Blind Guardian's Nightfall In Middle Earth. I mean it's terrible, but you could.

I'd rather play Bo Hansson's Music Inspired by Lord of the Rings or Uriah Heep's Demons and Wizards.
Ah right thanks! I already got that Bo Hansson-album of course... I don't think the-prog myth stems from an instrumental album peaking at 34th in the UK and 154 in the US - or a 1998-album. So the guilty one has got to be that Heep-album I guess (although mainly heavy rock isn't it?)... which is actually in my vinyl-collection but I've never really listened to (another one bougth for less than the price of a pack of gum).


Uriah Heep's Demons and Wizards is what I might call a Heavy Rock/ Progressive Rock Crossover. At the time I could imagine it being considered both heavy metal or hard rock and progressive rock (well, actually I still could and one might call it Heavy Prog). That said, I think that it played a bigger part in metal's fascination with such fantasy themes (very influential to heavy metal/metal album, I think). I was too young to appreciate Prog's heyday, but I think that the lines between Heavy Metal/ Hard Rock and progressive Rock were often blurry -- well, still can be.

One reason why I think Prog is associated with fantasy, which some people think of as elves, dragons and wizards, is Roger Dean's album covers -- and Rick Wakweman's capes and the sci-fi-ish nerdiness of bands like Rush and Camel's "Nimrodel/The Procession/The White Rider" and the fey theatrics of bands such as Genesis. I could listen to Camel, Yes and Genesis and get this fantasy vibe no matter what the lyrics are. Jon Anderson himself has had elfin qualities to me, and Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull can have a lascivious fairy folkishness about him.   I think that the theatrics of Prog is part of what has built on that "myth".

Edited by Logan - January 13 2019 at 10:13
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