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Poll Question: Which Of these do you prefer?
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46 [39.32%]
13 [11.11%]
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2019 at 02:02
Yes.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2019 at 02:38
I don't have the words for how good TYA is.   That said, it's probably gonna be Red.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2019 at 02:47
I find it hard to understand that almost half of those who voted for either one prefers The Yes Album over Red - but I find 98,5% of mankind hard to understand.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2019 at 02:58
^ I'm guessing because you're looking at it from a standpoint of creativity & innovation which Red embodied (especially at the time).   Whereas if you look at The Yes Album as a rock record along side Meddle, Tarkus, and Aqualung, it is equally powerful.


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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ I'm guessing because you're looking at it from a standpoint of creativity & innovation which Red embodied (especially at the time).   Whereas if you look at The Yes Album as a rock record along side Meddle, Tarkus, and Aqualung, it is equally powerful.
Perhaps. But I usually fail to connect with Yes and to me very little comes close to Meddle. I think my appreciation of Red is more about my physical and emotional response to the music on it. I don't know if I think much about creativety or innovation at all. Not as measurements as for why something is "good" - but it might seem that way as I happen to enjoy a lot of abstract, dissonant or "far out" stuff. Actually Red feels more like a band who's harvesting the fruits of prior experiments and innovations - rather than still pushing things forward. In many ways I think of it as a full circle return to their debut. Five years older, wiser and lot darker. But there's no Larks' Tounge-suite or Fracture to be found on it. Its mostly very distinguishable and memorable "songs" (with Providence placed dramaturgically the same place as the second part of Moonchild) which probably explains why its their second most popular album outside "the prog-community". 
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Red.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2019 at 04:49
Never really thought starless was that good. Nice intro but once the vocals come in it’s just a solid track after that. Title track is the highlight. Nothing on this album comes close to trooper or disgrace

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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mormegil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2019 at 05:23
It's Yes for this poll.
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Two top albums, and a bit unfair. Both are excellent. Saying this, I voted for Red (my fav Crimson), as TYA is second (in my books) to Close to the Edge.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote questionsneverknown Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2019 at 09:39
The Yes Album has never been that high on my list of the classic era Yes projects, whereas "Starless," just on its own, is clearly--by all objective standards--the greatest piece of music ever written by human beings.
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Yes
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2019 at 13:00
I voted both but if you pressed me I would probably go with Yes.....that album holds a lot of memories and sentimental feeling with me and if I had to play one over and over I would enjoy the Yes album longer over time.
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Red is the pinnacle of KC while The Yes Album is just the start in the rise to greatness. (IMO) 
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Voting on Red, King Crimson is better here
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote irrelevant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2019 at 07:15
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I voted both but if you pressed me I would probably go with Yes KC
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Close Poll,  24 -23 in favor of KC right now.
 Voted for Yes. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote noni Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2019 at 18:43
Yes 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2019 at 19:34
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

TYA easy
Red a bit hit and miss

agreeeeeeSmile

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barbu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2019 at 21:03
Very easy...The Yes Album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2019 at 23:30
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

"Red" is one of the very best albums in the canon of King Crimson. The same can not be said for "The Yes Album" and the canon of Yes.
 

Well although I voted for Red and partly agree , I do think that The Yes Album is one of their best perhaps only bettered by Fragile, Close To The Edge and Relayer. I'd probably tie it with Drama after those 3 so it's well up there imo. I just wish they could have found something better than A Venture to finish the album and the inclusion of a random live track ( The Clap) also jars a little but Starship Trooper , Yours is No Disgrace and I've Seen All Good People are undoubtedly solid gold prog tracks. 
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