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chopper
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Sorry micky, but that made me chuckle. The thought of you and Pedro in charge here is a bit like BJ being our PM - it could work out ok but...
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micky
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and that is why you would be perfect for the job... this place when it was great.. was a controlled form of anarchy. Of the Darwinistic sort.. rule by the strongest and fittest. i remember one cat we had here years ago from Swedem.. some of the old timers might remember here. Teafax. Man oh man was he smart as a whip, know his sh*t, but had zero time for fools and was prone to shoot down anyone that he felt was talking nonsense. Actually a really nice guy once you got passed music.. we sort of connected over.. Swedish style Pizza of all things. Go figure..
anyhow.. yeah... take my teasing of you as a very inside joke. Endaring for you know I love you brother. I don't do drugs anymore.. well.. once in a blue moon (see the 67 album thread for the last time haha) but the funny thing is.. no one believes me. In fact my office gets calls regularly from customers.. especially older farts saying... well.. this is hard to say for Michael is a lovely guy, very nice, and very friendly and is doing good work.. but.. ummm.. I do have to ask.. have you done a drug test on him.. he is talking to himself as he works. laughing at whatever he is saying to himself, suddnely singing to music he must hear in his head .. though I must say. he really does have a lovely voice my bosses standard reply.. oh yes.. we know what you are talking about and yes.. believe it or not.. he is regularly drug tested.. he is just ... umm.. sort of odd.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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moshkito
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I would be the biggest and best anarchist EVER, in charge of it ... but at my age, I would not want to manage it at all ... I would rather just enjoy being better than GONZO, at least when it comes to a lot of the music, and the arts, which to me ... is ... shall we say ... sacred? The only change? The top ten would be down tomorrow and be replaced by the top ten bands ... no more sucking up to one album or two for any band! We will treat them as ARTISTS ... and that's that ... and it is what will make "progressive" important, rather than songs ... which no one remembers anymore ... I find it weird to see all this sucking up to commercial stuff ... and the lack of respect for "progressive" which started as a counter measure to the commercial appeal.
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moshkito
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Weird ... I don't do dope at all ... ask my neighbor who takes it medically for his Parkinson's ... and I do not drink any alcohol at all. One can of Diet Coke a day and the rest all water. I think I last had a glass of some local hops over a year ago! I just live way too much inside the music, the keyboard in my computer, and the things that I write. I do "record" a heck of a lot of my dreams, which for all of you would explain some of the appreciation and attention I have to internal details, and specially how they are used in creativity, within a painting, a song, or a book! Now you know why there are no "genres" for me ... the source is internal for all of us, and it feels like saying that because one is black, that is a genre, because one is white, that is a genre ... and for me IT NEVER IS ... since it is ALL about us, as human beings ... and how much we care about our own inner visions! It's hard to feel like I have been placed by PA on one of the drawers in Gala's breast ... and it was closed down ... in fact, it is weird and much more surreal than Dali himself!
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richardh
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Symphonic as it includes ELP , Genesis and Yes. The only other bands that I care about as much as those are Rush and IQ. I'm guessing that Rush are in 'Heavy' category not prog metal? If so then when you include Porcupine Tree and Haken then that is a sub genre that I also like a lot. As far as Neo goes , IQ are probably the only band in that sub genre that I really love. On the general point about classifications it seems to me that a lot of RPI falls into Symphonic anyway! Edited by richardh - July 24 2019 at 06:52 |
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micky
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yeah.. we love the Mosh. The great tragedy of f**king M@X not taking me on that offer to sell the site and getting me to turn this site back into the brothel and saloon it used to be..
it was not letting me do what I wanted to do.. put Pedro in charge of it all.. he is the site's voice and intellectual center. God bless him.. and his f**king dealer haha
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Quinino
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Mosh, my man, you're unique and totally irreplaceable - long may you live ! (go easy with the smokes, though)
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micky
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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King Crimson are listed here as eclectic prog not Exp/post metal.
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moshkito
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Hi,
I can't vote on this ... 1. I don't listen to "genres". 2. There are times when something from the 16th century attracts me, and I might go after some of the better known composers, or I can put on something like the Third Ear Band, or some Gryphon, to get some notions, and ideas or thoughts about some of the feelings in that music, and how it comes out. 3. Symphonic is not a "genre". The history of "music", is almost EXCLUSIVELY about it all being "symphonic" going far back and then some. My main concern is that we are calling something "symphonic" simply because it has keyboards, and while it is a "string section" to be sure, there are times when a lot of music is "symphonic" but it is not considered that ... best example is CARAVAN AND THE NEW SINFONIA, and how well their music fits a classic symphony of folks, and how well versed and intelligent musicians ) more than likely musically well educated!!!!), in order to create what they did ... and it goes back to their second album (did I get it right? For Richard) ... and the like. "Symphonic" has evolved, since in the 16th century, orchestras did not have 100 folks ... and now they have more than that more often than not. Thus, 19th century composers were, by far the most "symphonic" in composing things for a complete orchestra, that kind of ended, or at least changed, when Stravinsky came around, even though he also used a full orchestra. 4. Jazz is not properly considered or determined, and in fact, in this poll some variations on the "jazz" theme are the only options ... a more straight away "jazz" option would make better sense to me. 5. The 1950's and 1960's black jazz pioneers were quite "symphonic" even though their main appeal was within a jazz context. I think that this, along with its melodic content, was what brought many more folks to the music. 6. There were very tough musical elements that were trying to break out of the "symphonic/orchestral" concepts in music ... and some of them are mentioned above. In almost all cases, you will find that the folks playing it, are highly educated musically and they know what they are doing. In that respect they are very "classical", although we might consider the music ... something else. It is, however, a very interesting poll ... but I'm not sure that a good/proper conclusion can be made out of it, that would help us learn more about each and everyone of those "genres'. Yes, I know they are there to represent a style at the time and place (baroque, romantic, modern, etc) but sadly, some of the descriptions for the listings are almost secondary to another group, at least in the way I see it. I look at all music when I see something like this ... not just a few things I listen to because I'm tired of Pink Floyd and Albinoni, all of a sudden sounds so much better as done by Thijs Van Leer. And things like that have a way to rip apart these polls for me!
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Grumpyprogfan
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I agree. The Aristocrats are classified as heavy prog on this site.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I'm always curious if there is someone out there who is big into both neo prog and RIO(the two most diametrically opposed prog subgenres). :D My guess would be that most neo fans have very little if any RIO and most RIO fans have very little if any neo. That's just how it seems like it would be but I could be wrong.
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Lewian
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Voted RIO, bands Aranis and A.P.A.T.T., although I don't constrain myself much by genre and several genres are represented in the recently discovered bands (and/or bands that fit nowhere and anywhere have been classified somewhat randomly). |
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Dopeydoc
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Symphonic, Neo prog beeing a close second.
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Fischman
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Agree.
Ani I love Haken and Riverside. Need to spend more time with Aristocrats. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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In my opinion Haken should be under prog metal and Riverside should be under heavy prog. The Aristocrats are jazz rock fusion on here or maybe should be.
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wiz_d_kidd
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I cast the first vote for Psychedelic/Space Rock, although I could equally have jumped on the Symphonic bandwagon. Why? Most of my reviews posted on PA fall into that genre. A recent discovery of mine was OHEAD (a Dave Hendry project). If you like Ozric Tentacles, Tangerine Dream, or even Shpongle, check 'em out here: https://www.ohead.co.uk/ |
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BaldFriede
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Most definitely Krautrock. But I can't really say that I recently
discovered anything; I have an excellent knowledge of that genre.
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winterwizard1987
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Neo-prog and Crossover for me. Symphonic is certainly up there, but I find myself returning to those two subgenres the most frequently. Lately I've been enjoying Gazpacho and Mystery quite a bit.
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kenethlevine
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prog folk of course.
Hexvessel and Sangre de Muerdago are both relatively recent discoveries
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