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    Posted: September 20 2019 at 17:31
This should be interesting as well as close. 
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Tull the best band ever. GG aren’t far behind though
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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GG did better in the renaissance festival poll which is kind of where I got the idea to have them go up against each other one on one.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

This should be interesting as well as close. 

Close but not close.  
Not close in that I expect Tull to take it walking away, vote wise.
But not close in the sense that while Tull may get the preponderance of votes, most of those voters wouldn't put GG very far behind.  

Think of it in boxing terms scoring on the 10 point must system.  Tull might beat, say, REO Speedwagon by 10-6 in each round, but they're only going to beat GG 10-9 in each round.  So it's still going to be closer to a unanimous decision than a split decision, but the overall point differential would be relatively small.  
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Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

This should be interesting as well as close. 

Close but not close.  
Not close in that I expect Tull to take it walking away, vote wise.
But not close in the sense that while Tull may get the preponderance of votes, most of those voters wouldn't put GG very far behind.  

Think of it in boxing terms scoring on the 10 point must system.  Tull might beat, say, REO Speedwagon by 10-6 in each round, but they're only going to beat GG 10-9 in each round.  So it's still going to be closer to a unanimous decision than a split decision, but the overall point differential would be relatively small.  

Well, you have certainly thought about it a lot more than I have. 

I think there's a lot of people who grew up with Tull where as even with some of the older prog fans they only first heard of GG in the past twenty years or so so TUll has a longer history in the pantheon of classic rock which is usually where most proggers start anyway.
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Tull, by about a light year or three.
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I do find it interesting that Tull are held in such high esteem. Although I like them and recognise that Ian Anderson is a very intelligent fellow , I don't see much about them that screams 'innovative'. They did create their own niche and traversed the blues rock /prog/folk thing very well. But I feel that really I'm happy to listen to Thick as A Brick and leave it at that most of the time. They did make Christmas music listenable as well! Gentle Giant on the other hand were an absolutely fascinating band up to and including Interview. They practically re-invented themselves constantly and there is a fluidity of ideas that is impressive. I don't like everything and I struggle to 'get' In A Glass House and Three Friends but that never stops me from going back and wanting to listen to them weirdly. I can't think of many bands that are like that.While Tull invented a formula , GG invented new music.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I think there's a lot of people who grew up with Tull where as even with some of the older prog fans they only first heard of GG in the past twenty years or so so TUll has a longer history in the pantheon of classic rock which is usually where most proggers start anyway.
I'm in this group.
 
I'm not really a fan of either group, but Jethro Tull easily gets my vote.
 
 
 
 
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GG is like the logical conclusion of Tull's sound if they went to that extreme. I happen to prefer that sound to Tull. So, therefore, GG all the way (and always).

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I am a big follower of both bands since the '70s.

Tull were far more consistent and actually did change musical styles on numerous occasions (for the better; in most cases).

Yes, GG were more adventurous than JT but they polarized more listeners than Tull ever did....

and then there's the 1978 album Giant For A Day........Tull never ventured into crap territory such as that; they didn't have to, as they sold millions with each album; while GG barely sold any albums at all and finally succumbed to financial pressures associated with their stance on being progressive to the point of, as they stated, "being very unpopular".

Their music didn't pay the bills....they "gave in", went down the popular route and failed. But I must say, I love all their albums from 1970-76 and I really do love side 2 of The Missing Piece....and even Civilian is a winner in my eyes.

But Tull all the way.
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Actually really hard ngl, I think Tull my get my vote, TAAB and Songs from the Wood are better than any gentle giant imo
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its about equal for my second tier of prog bands I like---although I probably listen to GG best album more than Tull's.
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I don't consider them second tier prog bands. GG are maybe on the bubble between first and second tier(at the most)depending on your perspective. I think in this day and age maybe there should be a re-evaluation of the terms first and second tier.
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Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

and then there's the 1978 album Giant For A Day........Tull never ventured into crap territory such as that

Really? How about Underwraps?

Giant gets my vote.

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One of the closest polls I've ever seen, at least for me, but I will vote for Tull, since they had the amazing Martin Barre on guitar.
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I like some GG but I think they had a habit of putting too much stuff into their songs and they tend to show off a bit. Tull are a mixed bag overall, but they have some six or seven albums that I really love to pieces and three or four further ones that are pretty good. Some of their music is among my most treasured, so the vote goes to them. 
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From what I understand it was never GG's intention to "show off." They had the experience and musical knowledge to make intricate and interesting music and used their skills to do that. I used to think the same thing though that they were trying to upstage other bands and be better than everyone else and were like "hey, look at us" but then I spoke to someone who was a very big fan and he didn't think that was the case. I don't really think most musicians are about showing off anyway. I think that tends to be the fans perspective not the bands. I could be wrotg though. Who knows for sure.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

GG did better in the renaissance festival poll which is kind of where I got the idea to have them go up against each other one on one.
I was one of the votes for GG in that poll, in fact. GG did make believably authentic Medieval music when they wanted to. But framed as which I out and out like better, it's Tull by a mile.
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