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PT has a variety of sounds. The early albums are more directly influenced by Pink Floyd. I'd recommend Coma Divine (the live album) as it has great versions of the best of the early period. Then Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun are more song oriented. Either of these two albums would be a good place to start; all are far different than In Absentia, Deadwing, Fear of a Blank Planet and The Incident, which is PT's heavier phase. I much prefer the albums preceding In Absentia, although I still like the later stuff.
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Originally posted by progmatic progmatic wrote:

PT has a variety of sounds. The early albums are more directly influenced by Pink Floyd. I'd recommend Coma Divine (the live album) as it has great versions of the best of the early period. Then Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun are more song oriented. Either of these two albums would be a good place to start; all are far different than In Absentia, Deadwing, Fear of a Blank Planet and The Incident, which is PT's heavier phase. I much prefer the albums preceding In Absentia, although I still like the later stuff.

I disagree somewhat. Their transition was, to a degree, gradual and there was imo not that big of a leap between Lightbulb Sun and In Absentia. There's really only three or maybe four metallish songs on IA. The rest are vintage sounding PT and not too dissimilar to the two before it. There's even some heavy stuff on SD("even less" for example). For me the bigger leap was from Signify to Stupid Dream but even those two have some strong similarities. 


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Gentle Giant: Octopus is the only album I like and even that I do not love.
 
As a result of the high praise given on this forum, and the realisation that I haven't really given them fair hearing, I decided to re-evaluate the music of Gentle Giant. I said this in the "Albums You've Recently Changed Your Mind On" thread:
 
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster (in another thread) I prophesy disaster (in another thread) wrote:

An album that I've recently changed my mind on is Gentle Giant - The Power And The Glory. This album was actually my first exposure to Gentle Giant about 20 years ago. I received this album in error after having ordered Octopus. Because Octopus was the recommended album, and it was my intention not to get more than one album, The Power And The Glory had to be returned. Nevertheless, I chose to listen to the album before returning it to get an idea of what to expect from Gentle Giant. I didn't like the album at that time, but hoped that because Octopus was the recommended album, it would be more likely that I would like it. This turned out to be case, but I continued with having that as my only album until quite recently when as a result of the high praise given to Gentle Giant on this forum, I decided to re-evaluate my assessment of Gentle Giant.

It turns out that after listening to The Power And The Glory a number of times, I quite like the album, perhaps even more than Octopus. I think I'm more receptive to The Power And The Glory now because I have a greater familiarity with Gentle Giant music so any strangeness no longer seems strange. Also, I think I was less receptive to The Power And The Glory 20 years ago because I had a motivation to dislike the album so that returning it would be easier. So it would appear that I've not given Gentle Giant a fair hearing, something that I'm currently rectifying.

 
 


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Although I have listened to quite a few of their albums, apart from a few tracks, one group I've been unable to get into is Ozric Tentacles.
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

I assume most people on this site are pretty open minded about music & enjoy exploring different artists but I'm sure there are bands we all try to get in to, but we just can't . We don't say that are bad or not talented , they're just not for you. 

One for me is defiantly Van Der Graaf Generator. I've trier several times, in fact I just tried a few minutes ago but it's just not for me. (I know a lot of people on the site love them) 

So who is it for you?
 
You are hereby sentenced to progatory for raising the question. LOL
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Although I have listened to quite a few of their albums, apart from a few tracks, one group I've been unable to get into is Ozric Tentacles.
Do you actively excercise?  Great music for working out although I admit I don't do that although I should. LOL I would also recommend Maserati. Big smile
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Amon Duul. In principle I liked them because they were weird and German. But in practice...
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Amon Duul. In principle I liked them because they were weird and German. But in practice...


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Are you talking about Amon Düül or Amon Düül II? Chances are you mean Amon Düül II, but if it's Amon Düül without the number II, give ADII a chance, too. Amon Düül were a hippy commune doing some music for fun, their stuff is not of much value really (of course that's subjective, but let's say to most people). ADII were the real musicians.
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Eloy (vox). SOme nice music though...
(90s T Dream (casio keyboards... )
Neal Morse and a lot of what gets called retro prog. Mainly because instead of, like Yes, deciding on musical ways to achieve a musical emotion the complex prog is an established style. The means has become an end. Had a 4 CD DVD live album and the intricacy was both fascinating and dull - it lacked great tunes. Something that only rarely happened with Yes. This happens a lot with the technically accomplished but under composed (sadly and annoyingly).
Vdgg. Respect but cannot enjoy - vox again. In need of some job share (too few trying too much) or a guitarist.
Tool. Got the first two ages ago and returned them and recovered by exchanging what I thought was awful with some Camel. Got 10000 Days. It's ok, intricate long hard rock numbers in search of a decent guitar solo.
Radiohead. Beyond some of Kid A (very RIO influenced) I cannot get why they are so popular. Desperation for a new DSOTM by OK PC / Mac fans I'd heard...

Not a bad ratio for a popular music sub genre. Some didn't take off. Most did (which doesn't mean I need or want complete catalogues from everyone - just good representations.
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I would say for me there are many bands that I just cant bet into. The good thing about prog as there are alot of different unique bands. So more variety and more chances of not liking something. I really tried but just didnt het into Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, or Gentile Giant.
I bought. Gentile Giant Album back in the 70’s just based on it being prog and figured I would like it.. i listened tonit a few times and then that was it .
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I've tried and tried to like these artists/bands with absolutely no success:
Van der Graaf Generator
Steven Wilson
Tool
Magma
IQ
Phideaux
And many others...

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Are you talking about Amon Düül or Amon Düül II? Chances are you mean Amon Düül II, but if it's Amon Düül without the number II, give ADII a chance, too. Amon Düül were a hippy commune doing some music for fun, their stuff is not of much value really (of course that's subjective, but let's say to most people). ADII were the real musicians.

Thanks!  I consider "Wolf City" by ADII to be one of the gems of the 1970s, with musical moments that rival their peers.  It is a very dark, powerful work that I have loved for many years.  
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Originally posted by Cylli Kat (0fficial) Cylli Kat (0fficial) wrote:

I've tried and tied to like these artists/bands with absolutely no success:
Van der Graaf Generator
Steven Wilson
Tool
Magma
IQ
Phideaux
And many others...
 

the only one that seems a little strange to me is Wilson and only because his albums to date are all different stylistically (at least to my ears). The other bands I know well enough (except Magma) to 'get' where you are coming from. Perhaps you don't like picking and choosing from an artist? There are King Crimson albums I love (Red , Power to Believe) and others I really don't care for (Larks Tongue In Aspic and Discipline) but I'm happy enough that there are a few that I like.
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Originally posted by Cylli Kat (0fficial) Cylli Kat (0fficial) wrote:

I've tried and tied to like these artists/bands with absolutely no success:
Van der Graaf Generator
Steven Wilson
Tool
Magma
IQ
Phideaux
And many others...


I'm with you. I do not enjoy any of those bands.
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Originally posted by MaldonTerryWood MaldonTerryWood wrote:

Amon Duul. In principle I liked them because they were weird and German. But in practice...


So was Ludwig II of Bavaria but no-one would have paid to hear him sing Wink
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Van der Graaf Generator I guess
New album!
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385
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The Moody Blues. I've, obviously, heard Knights in White Satin on the radio and also something about tuesday afternoon, but that's it. So I would like to maybe try to get into this band. Does someone who's a fan on here have a suggestion for a good album to start with for them?
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

The Moody Blues. I've, obviously, heard Knights in White Satin on the radio and also something about tuesday afternoon, but that's it. So I would like to maybe try to get into this band. Does someone who's a fan on here have a suggestion for a good album to start with for them?

I like all of the early ones but one of my favorites is In Search of the Lost Chord....



turn up the volume......




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Ok cool. Thank you.
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