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    Posted: November 08 2019 at 12:11
I noticed that Annie Haslam of Renaissance doesn't have a separate entry in ProgArchives, even though she's had a long and illustrious solo career. Is there any chance of her being included?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2019 at 12:15
why should she be here? Just because she is in Renaissance? What genre? Give us some links to prove she does some sort of progressive rock (I for one have not heard her solo stuff).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2019 at 12:27
I love Annie but none of her solo studio albums are prog, imho.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2019 at 13:19
I'd class her solo work as Symphonic Rock. Here's Annie's cover version of the Genesis song "Ripples"
 
 
.....and this is Annie's cover version of the Yessong "Turn of the Century"
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2019 at 13:39
those two covers do not help, she guested on tributed and on other artists albums, but how are her solo albums?
I'm gonna try and listen a bit.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2019 at 14:57
love love love Annie but her solo work is not prog in any way shape or form.  Eclectic at times especially on "Annie in Wonderland", but that's it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2019 at 15:16
I was surprised when I discovered she wasn't already included in ProgArchives. I suppose if Annie was to be included then she'd be listed as either Prog-Related, Crossover Prog or Symphonic Prog.   A couple of her albums are classical Symphonic Rock and some are regular Pop/Rock. Here's a solo Annie Haslam concert from Philadelphia (where she now lives) back in 1997.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2019 at 06:23
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'd class her solo work as Symphonic Rock. Here's Annie's cover version of the Genesis song "Ripples"
 
 
 
.....and this is Annie's cover version of the Yessong "Turn of the Century"
 
 
Yes, these are great one off songs for tribute albums but not representative of Annie's solo albums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2019 at 06:46
I included Annie's concert from Philadelphia to show that her roots lie in Progressive Rock. Her first solo album "Annie in Wonderland" was quite progressive too.
 
Annie Haslam - Rockalise
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2019 at 07:18
I'm afraid you're singing to the choir Paul. If I posted all the MOR songs from Blessing In Disguise, Dawn Of Ananda, Woman Transcending and the covers of Nature Boy and Going Home from Annie In Wonderland, those songs would paint Annie as quite the MOR artist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2019 at 07:27
I guess she's a similar case as Sandy Denny - much loved indeed (and not only for her work with Strawbs, FC, Fotheringay) but not sufficiently under our scope.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2019 at 10:49
Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

I guess she's a similar case as Sandy Denny - much loved indeed (and not only for her work with Strawbs, FC, Fotheringay) but not sufficiently under our scope.
I've been criticised for not adding any artists to Prog Archives - even though I'd barely been here one month at the time - but every artist I've suggested for inclusion so far has been rejected. Confused
 
To be honest, I can't see how Annie Haslam could possibly NOT be included in ProgArchives. To call a versatile classically-trained singer such as  Annie Haslam an MOR artist, or middle-of-the-road Pop artist, is a bit of an insult to her. Unhappy


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2019 at 12:49
I think there is somewhere guidelines as to what could be considered as prog for the site, when not already here...and I think I remember that new artists were exempt from some of the qualifiers of existing bands/artists?  Not sure if those are still being followed, either.....Maybe one of the kind admins can provide a link here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2019 at 12:55
Thanks Nicolette.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2019 at 15:00
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

I guess she's a similar case as Sandy Denny - much loved indeed (and not only for her work with Strawbs, FC, Fotheringay) but not sufficiently under our scope.

I've been criticised for not adding any artists to Prog Archives - even though I'd barely been here one month at the time - but every artist I've suggested for inclusion so far has been rejected. Confused
 
To be honest, I can't see how Annie Haslam could possibly NOT be included in ProgArchives. To call a versatile classically-trained singer such as  Annie Haslam an MOR artist, or middle-of-the-road Pop artist, is a bit of an insult to her. Unhappy




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2019 at 06:56
I doubt even Annie would consider her solo work to be prog.  The reason she decided to return to Renaissance was precisely to make prog again with Michael Dunford, to get back to their "roots".  There is plenty of great music that isn't prog so I don'[t see how it's insulting to reject an artist on prog archives.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2019 at 07:55
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

I doubt even Annie would consider her solo work to be prog.  The reason she decided to return to Renaissance was precisely to make prog again with Michael Dunford, to get back to their "roots".  There is plenty of great music that isn't prog so I don'[t see how it's insulting to reject an artist on prog archives.


I'm not saying Annie Haslam would find it insulting to be rejected from ProgArchives, but I think she WOULD find it insulting to be referred to as a MOR artist or Middle of the Road Pop artist in an earlier post.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2019 at 08:11
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

I guess she's a similar case as Sandy Denny - much loved indeed (and not only for her work with Strawbs, FC, Fotheringay) but not sufficiently under our scope.

I've been criticised for not adding any artists to Prog Archives - even though I'd barely been here one month at the time - but every artist I've suggested for inclusion so far has been rejected. Confused
 
To be honest, I can't see how Annie Haslam could possibly NOT be included in ProgArchives. To call a versatile classically-trained singer such as  Annie Haslam an MOR artist, or middle-of-the-road Pop artist, is a bit of an insult to her. Unhappy




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hahahha.. that is worth a toastie.. Beer  no wonder we get along so well.  

anyhow..  Paul...  let me offer some advice. If it is a classic band, or artist.. you can bet your ass they are here if they merit it.. and if not.. they were rejected. We once had scores of people dedicated to additions.. filling out the database and there are not many we missed.

new additions these days are primarily the new bands.. we've picked over the oldies pretty damn well man. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2019 at 08:49
Maybe I'll just give up making suggestions for PA artist additions altogether and make it easier for everyone here, bearing in mind every suggestion I've offered so far has been rejected.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2019 at 10:38
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


anyhow..  Paul...  let me offer some advice. If it is a classic band, or artist.. you can bet your ass they are here if they merit it.. and if not.. they were rejected. We once had scores of people dedicated to additions.. filling out the database and there are not many we missed.

new additions these days are primarily the new bands.. we've picked over the oldies pretty damn well man. 

Thank you for clarifying that.  
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