Magma VS Zeuhl

^ I guessed that’s what you would say. We are getting too predictable methinks. That’s an option I wish people didn’t include in such things, I guess cause I don’t enjoy negativity or dismissiveness generally.   It often comes across as not open-minded or open-eared enough to me. It’s why I stay out of many Neo-Prog and Prog Metal topics, despite the fact that I have found music to like in every category at PA, and had already in my early years here. I just generally prefer to talk with others about the art that I like with like-minded individuals. That said, I don’t think it’s a good idea to stay too much in one’s own bubble, and being exposed to different opinions/ ideas can be useful since I do think that we should be akways questioning our beliefs and opinions. It’s good to be challenged when it’s constructive especially.

Anyway, this is not one where I would feel comfortable voting either way, but if I had to choose between my Magma albums and every other album that gets included by people in the greater Zeuhl universe (some of which doesn’t imitate Magma and some of which is only arguably Zeuhl) then Magma lamentedly would be gone. Still, no vote partially as it would depend on how narrowly or broadly one uses the Zeuhl term. There is a greater Zeuhl and Zeuhlish umbrella. Some if it imitates Magma, much of it was inspired by it, and some of it can just have a similar sound without being influenced or directly influenced.

By the way, I like the early JRF Magma which some have called more proto-Zeuhl. Magma’s debut is my favourite and would be my favourite album included in the Zeuhl category.

Edited by Logan - February 10 2021 at 22:00

As good as any, you're welcome. 

I picked "The others" and it was an easy pick even if I love me some MAGMA.

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: moshkito wrote: Hi, I'm not sure that a lot of this poll, and some great listings of various bands, is a good thing ... I keep thinking that a Poll about who came first ... the chicken or the egg ... would probably get better results all around ... but I'm not sure that too many folks look at this as a part of the history of music ... just a bunch of this and that by various groups and too much of the stuff is about the "sound" ... and not the music as it should be. There are way too many out there as good or better than Magma or each other ... but the poll ... kinda hurts ... when it's all about "likes" ... not the music and its internal definitions and value within a timely context ... in which case I would say that Magma might be ahead of the curve, but who knows ... their children went out and did better than dad! You do know that this section is specifically for polls and is just a bit of fun right? You don't like polls don't come here.

There should be an option 'I only know Magma of all Zeuhl bands'. In its absence, I have to go with only Magma.

siLLy puPPy wrote: And all of prog can be reduced down to being simply "snooty rock" but just like clowns we like to paint it all up with pretty names and rejoice in the synthesis of a newborn fledgling sound wriggling out of its birth canal.

IMO Zeuhl is the most forced subgenre on PA. xd Many so called "zeuhl" bands are just AvantProg or Fusion.

Edited by Hrychu - February 08 2021 at 16:20

As much as I love some Magma albums, I love more Zeuhl albums not by Magma, than I do Magma albums. The great Magma albums are undoubtedly great, but their discography is definitely not universally great. So if I had to make the choice, as much as it pains me to do it, I would say goodbye to Magma, so that I could still enjoy all those other albums.

Donovan Punch - The Peasants of Arbatox vs Infinity - check me out on YouTube Acoustic Guitar Zeuhl music :-)