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    Posted: December 02 2019 at 16:00
While I generally like all of our top 20 albums, thereís a few I donít care for as much, but my rating is not to say they donít belong in their spot.

Thick as a Brick (3 Stars)

I know itís a seemingly universally loved album, itís just never done much for me and I find myself bored by the end.

Larks Tongues In Aspic (3 Stars)

It is very solid, but a bit uneven unlike Court and Red where I think they really nail the song structure. Larks is more jammy which I understand the appeal of

Fragile (3 stars)

Itís just a bit too all over the place for me, and heart of the sunrise doesnít appeal to me. I prefer the yes album and the 3 that follow it much more.

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Animals. It and The Wall are overrated Floyd.
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most of them
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2019 at 16:46
Hmm let's see. I love VDGG but for some reason I can't get into Godbluff. VDGG have four or five albums on which I find every single song better than every song on Godbluff. Don't know why that one is so popular. Fragile. Moving Pictures, but then I'm not a Rush fan and have only listened to that album once, not enough for a rating. Hybris didn't get me in two attempts.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2019 at 18:14
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Hmm let's see. I love VDGG but for some reason I can't get into Godbluff. VDGG have four or five albums on which I find every single song better than every song on Godbluff. Don't know why that one is so popular. Fragile. Moving Pictures, but then I'm not a Rush fan and have only listened to that album once, not enough for a rating. Hybris didn't get me in two attempts.

I agree with you on Godbluff.
I consider it a great album but not so great as The Least, From H to He and Pawn Hearts.

In my opinion it is in a better position because it is a simpler, and more accessible than the previous, more linear, less cacophonous.


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Three stars?

Surely, in my personal ranking, 

- Thick As a Brick

- Nursery Crime

- Mirage
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Canít say I agree on Godbluff, def 5 stars in my book. But I do like still life perhaps a hair more.
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Canít say I agree on Godbluff, def 5 stars in my book. But I do like still life perhaps a hair more.

Godbluff gets 5 stars even for me but....

The Least
From H to He
Pawn Hearts

they are on my top: 10/10... how can I say? Absolute masterpieces of rock music,  Six strars /Five stars! Big smile

Godbluff 9/10, a mini masterpiece of prog music!
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Canít say I agree on Godbluff, def 5 stars in my book. But I do like still life perhaps a hair more.


Godbluff gets 5 stars even for me but....

The Least
From H to He
Pawn Hearts

they are on my top: 10/10... how can I say? Absolute masterpieces of rock music,† Six strars /Five stars!†Big smile

Godbluff 9/10, a mini masterpiece of prog music!


All are excellent albums and all get 5 from me too, I give 9/10 to the earlier two and 10/10 to the later two.
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Almost all are fine with me, but I would like to see some Rush in there.
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There are certainly some that would be 3.5 stars in my book but the rest are fine
Dark Side of the Moon
Selling England By The Pound
In The Court of the Crimson King

ITCOTCK is important for historical reasons and has great songs but the production is horrible and it hasn't aged well.
DSOTM is a commercial AOR album with some neat electronics admittedly
SEBTP has my least favourite long track by a major band The Battle of Epping of Forest. A lot of bollocks really. Also a bit bored with some of the other stuff I Know What I Like and even Cinema Show lacks a punchy ending. I get the love for it though because it used to be my favourite album a long time ago.
None of them of bad of course and there are other albums by these bands I adore.


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I'm not that great a fan of Pink Floyd after 'Live at Pompeii' and Yes in general. These albums listed below are still mandatory listens, so I hold no grudge against them appearing so high in this list. Just not my cup of tea really. Of these albums, which I all owned at one point, I only have a vinyl of Dark Side of the Moon for audiophile listening bliss.

Close to the Edge
Selling England by the Pound (though the first side is lovely)
Wish You Were Here
Dark Side of the Moon
Animals
Fragile
Relayer
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less than StarStarStarStar?
 
Then I guess that Fragile would be the first one, but from Camel downwards until Hybris, most of them would be between 3.5 and 4
 
 
BTW, it tool me a few minutes top discover where these top lists had been migrated to (they used to be on the front pages a few years back)... i guess it shows how much I care for them lists.
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I would personally rate Thick as a Brick 3 stars, but the rest are worthy of 4 stars+ IMO.
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I'm not sure what good a thread like this accomplishes. I'm not doing the old man ranting at the clouds but just wondering. We certainly can't like everything. I do think that we have to acknowledge that certain music that we find unappealing has the opposite effect on other people. I find A Passion Play quite boring but I do agree that many prog fans like it and derive a high level of enjoyment from listening to it. More power to them. Life holds enough lemons for people at times and if that album makes their day then we should just be happy for them. End of rant.
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I don't think I can see any point in this anymore. I hate rating albums with a numeric score.
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Less than four stars? No can do! Less than four stars to me means that it's just average music, average prog, which means quite disappointing and demeaning. 

14 of them do not earn five stars in my estimation, and Mirage, and Larks' Tongues may be wavering on the brink, but I think they're all up there (in the Top 20) for understandable reasons.
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Less than four stars? No can do! Less than four stars to me means that it's just average music, average prog, which means quite disappointing and demeaning. 

The description of 3 stars is "good but not essential", which means good! If it's average and disappointing I'd give it 2 at most.
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