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I'm not sure how successful it was but Yes on the Keys to ascension studio tracks from the mid 90's. It always seemed to me like they were trying to throw a bone to their hardcore fan base with those who were(are) obsessed with just the 70's era. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I'm not sure how successful it was but Yes on the Keys to ascension studio tracks from the mid 90's. It always seemed to me like they were trying to throw a bone to their hardcore fan base with those who were(are) obsessed with just the 70's era. 
 

They did it, too. Those KTA tracks = the best Yes had done in a LONG time. Wakey was sizzlin'!  Wink
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Agree with many suggestions especially Eloy and Hackett but also would add Kayak. Seventeen was a strong album but I like the 'prog opera' trilogy of Merlin, Nostradamus and Cleopatra as well.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I'm not sure how successful it was but Yes on the Keys to ascension studio tracks from the mid 90's. It always seemed to me like they were trying to throw a bone to their hardcore fan base with those who were(are) obsessed with just the 70's era. 
 

They did it, too. Those KTA tracks = the best Yes had done in a LONG time. Wakey was sizzlin'!  Wink


Too derivative to me and it just seems like they were trying too hard to recapture their golden era. Imagine a sixty year old man trying to lose weight and get into shape just so he can fit into clothes he wore when he was in his twenties? That's how I see it more or less. I still like it to some degree but I enjoy talk more and I even think the Ladder was better at finding the balance between an old and newer sound. The keys stuff doesn't even try to be modern it's just hey let's go in the recording studio and pretend it's 1972 again. So the prog fanboy in me likes it but over all it seems a bit too contrived for me personally.


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I can't think of anything that hasn't already been said; but now I have some new albums to check out!

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Faust haven´t mentioned, their last "Fresh Air" really is as it´s name!!

Haikara made really great two albums in the nineties-2000.
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Haikara made really great two albums in the nineties-2000.
As a big fan of the first two Haikara albums I’ve been meaning to check these out. Just read your very useful reviews of them and I think I will track the CDs down - thanks!

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Magma for sure. I like KA and FT (2000s) better than Kontharkoz or Udo Wudu (70s).
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I’ll join in on Magma. Also really dug the recent Brainticket album (RIP)...but generally speaking I find far more interesting releases in younger artists’ oevre. Like Italiano Jim used to say: rock is a young man’s game.
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Prog rock stars Genesis announce reunion 


Here's hoping the reunion sparks some interest in releasing some new material together as well Tongue


Tickets for the Last Domino tour go on sale at 9am on 6 March. Genesis will play:

16 November - Dublin 3 arena
19 Nov – Belfast SSE arena
23 Nov – Liverpool M&S Bank arena
26 Nov – Leeds First Direct arena
29 Nov – London O2 arena
30 Nov – London O2 arena
2 December – Manchester arena
5 Dec – Birmingham arena
8 Dec – Glasgow SSE Hydro arena
11 Dec – Newcastle Utilita arena



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Strawbs! Still trying to re-capture their golden era of prog. They came very close with The Ferryman's Curse album while many other 70s prog stalwarts just go through the motions. Not a fan of VDGG but they have been doing the same.

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Originally posted by gr8dane gr8dane wrote:

Originally posted by foregonillusions foregonillusions wrote:

Kansas' 2016 album, The Prelude Implicit, is a good example.

Hear hear.New album coming out in June.
I can't wait till June comes I get the feeling the new album from Kansas will be fantastic if 'The Prelude Implicit' is anything to go by . Tongue
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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Haikara made really great two albums in the nineties-2000.
As a big fan of the first two Haikara albums I’ve been meaning to check these out. Just read your very useful reviews of them and I think I will track the CDs down - thanks!
I believe you mean MattiSmile, because he´s the one who´s made reviews in PA (I have made in Finnish colossus sites, but they´re Finnish, guess you aren´t that hardcore you´ve learnt Finnish language LOL) Anyway our names are really close: Martti & Matti.

Have to say they aren´t as great as bands two first albums, but anyway really great for an old prog band. Also it could be difficult to find Tuhkamaa, I managed only download it from that Italian record company sites.


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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Haikara made really great two albums in the nineties-2000.
As a big fan of the first two Haikara albums I’ve been meaning to check these out. Just read your very useful reviews of them and I think I will track the CDs down - thanks!
I believe you mean MattiSmile, because he´s the one who´s made reviews in PA (I have made in Finnish colossus sites, but they´re Finnish, guess you aren´t that hardcore you´ve learnt Finnish language LOL) Anyway our names are really close: Martti & Matti.


Have to say they aren´t as great as bands two first albums, but anyway really great for an old prog band. Also it could be difficult to find Tuhkamaa, I managed only download it from that Italian record company sites.
Yes I meant Matti

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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Haikara made really great two albums in the nineties-2000.
As a big fan of the first two Haikara albums I’ve been meaning to check these out. Just read your very useful reviews of them and I think I will track the CDs down - thanks!
I believe you mean MattiSmile, because he´s the one who´s made reviews in PA (I have made in Finnish colossus sites, but they´re Finnish, guess you aren´t that hardcore you´ve learnt Finnish language LOL) Anyway our names are really close: Martti & Matti.


Have to say they aren´t as great as bands two first albums, but anyway really great for an old prog band. Also it could be difficult to find Tuhkamaa, I managed only download it from that Italian record company sites.
Yes I meant Matti

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I think the Genesis announcement deserves it's own thread. Apparently it is legit though.
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I wouldn't say Camel's Rajaz is a return to its former potency, but it certainly is a beautiful masterpiece. Rush's Snakes and Arrows was a very nice nod to its original punch.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I'm not sure how successful it was but Yes on the Keys to ascension studio tracks from the mid 90's. It always seemed to me like they were trying to throw a bone to their hardcore fan base with those who were(are) obsessed with just the 70's era. 
 

They did it, too. Those KTA tracks = the best Yes had done in a LONG time. Wakey was sizzlin'!  Wink


Too derivative to me and it just seems like they were trying too hard to recapture their golden era.

How can they be derivative when it's their sound? It was a line-up sans Rabin. I do like Trevor (especially his pre-Yes rock), but I welcomed the return to the G4T1/Tormato sound. "That, That Is" and "Mind Drive" were the tonic we needed after the underwhelming Talk and the abysmal OYE.

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Imagine a sixty year old man trying to lose weight and get into shape just so he can fit into clothes he wore when he was in his twenties? That's how I see it more or less. I still like it to some degree but I enjoy talk more and I even think the Ladder was better at finding the balance between an old and newer sound. The keys stuff doesn't even try to be modern it's just hey let's go in the recording studio and pretend it's 1972 again. So the prog fanboy in me likes it but over all it seems a bit too contrived for me personally.
 

Exactly what they're doing now, especially with Chris gone. Yes needs to hang it up. They're no better than Foreigner.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I'm not sure how successful it was but Yes on the Keys to ascension studio tracks from the mid 90's. It always seemed to me like they were trying to throw a bone to their hardcore fan base with those who were(are) obsessed with just the 70's era. 
 

They did it, too. Those KTA tracks = the best Yes had done in a LONG time. Wakey was sizzlin'!  Wink


Too derivative to me and it just seems like they were trying too hard to recapture their golden era.

How can they be derivative when it's their sound? It was a line-up sans Rabin. I do like Trevor (especially his pre-Yes rock), but I welcomed the return to the G4T1/Tormato sound. "That, That Is" and "Mind Drive" were the tonic we needed after the underwhelming Talk and the abysmal OYE.

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Imagine a sixty year old man trying to lose weight and get into shape just so he can fit into clothes he wore when he was in his twenties? That's how I see it more or less. I still like it to some degree but I enjoy talk more and I even think the Ladder was better at finding the balance between an old and newer sound. The keys stuff doesn't even try to be modern it's just hey let's go in the recording studio and pretend it's 1972 again. So the prog fanboy in me likes it but over all it seems a bit too contrived for me personally.
 

Exactly what they're doing now, especially with Chris gone. Yes needs to hang it up. They're no better than Foreigner.

At one point it was their sound but the band evolved. For them to do that is like ignoring the pop success they had in the eighties which is exactly what the Yes prog snobs wanted(the "everything after GFTO sucks" mentality). To do a tip of the hat to their old sound is one thing but to revisit it for nostalgia sake they way the way did on the keys albums is another thing entirely. Nothing really wrong with that if that's what you are into but at least call it tales part 2 or "close to the edge the return" or something. I guess the RD cover art work was enough for most people. We all have our own opinions on this and I don't expect most to agree with me but that's the way I see it. Anyway, I'm done discussing this. 


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