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1978: Camel vs Genesis vs Yes
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Poll Question: What's yur favorite out of these?
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And I'm another one Tormato defender. I simply like it (maybe it has something to do with the fact it was my first LP record I owned back in the '80s). Thus Tormato gets my vote.
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Genesis first of course.  That is a GREAT Camel album and one of their best.  Tormato sucks.
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Camel is one of those consistent bands where it's difficult to find anything below 3 stars and Breathless is a solid 4 star album.
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I love the Genesis album and agree with Blacksword. I suspect that people would like ATTWT to be worse than it is given the usual cliché that Genesis stopped being a prog band after Hackett left. True it has some commercial stuff but it's well blended with heavier stuff imo.
Tormato - Actually I like some of the tracks a lot especially Future Times and On The Silent Wings Of Freedom. I think my biggest dislike though is that it feels very random at times. Not terrible though and Alan White performs like a real hero on the some of the tracks.
Don't know the Camel album at all. I struggle to get past their first four.
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Genesis.
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I'd like to cast a Hell No vote for Tormato.

Although I do like Silent Wings of Freedom.

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I love the Genesis album and agree with Blacksword. I suspect that people would like ATTWT to be worse than it is given the usual cliché that Genesis stopped being a prog band after Hackett left. True it has some commercial stuff but it's well blended with heavier stuff imo.
Tormato - Actually I like some of the tracks a lot especially Future Times and On The Silent Wings Of Freedom. I think my biggest dislike though is that it feels very random at times. Not terrible though and Alan White performs like a real hero on the some of the tracks.
Don't know the Camel album at all. I struggle to get past their first four.


Random is quite a good way to describe Tormato. There's no structure or flow to the album. It sounds like a collection of songs which perhaps weren't good enough for GFTO.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I love the Genesis album and agree with Blacksword. I suspect that people would like ATTWT to be worse than it is given the usual cliché that Genesis stopped being a prog band after Hackett left. True it has some commercial stuff but it's well blended with heavier stuff imo.
Tormato - Actually I like some of the tracks a lot especially Future Times and On The Silent Wings Of Freedom. I think my biggest dislike though is that it feels very random at times. Not terrible though and Alan White performs like a real hero on the some of the tracks.
Don't know the Camel album at all. I struggle to get past their first four.
Breathless contains some very good tracks and is quite consistent. While I absolutely love the first four, I think that Raind Dances and Breathless are the albums which characterized the Camel's sound especially with their clones around the world.  I Can See Your House From Here contains some real stinkers like Remote Romance and The Single Factor is absolutely forgettable, but later albums like Stationary Traveller and Harbour of Tears, are good enough...then Rajaz in my opinion can stand together the first four.
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None of these. They all made so many better albums.
In 1978, I would pick UK (by UK).
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Tormato
Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I love the Genesis album and agree with Blacksword. I suspect that people would like ATTWT to be worse than it is given the usual cliché that Genesis stopped being a prog band after Hackett left. True it has some commercial stuff but it's well blended with heavier stuff imo.
Tormato - Actually I like some of the tracks a lot especially Future Times and On The Silent Wings Of Freedom. I think my biggest dislike though is that it feels very random at times. Not terrible though and Alan White performs like a real hero on the some of the tracks.
Don't know the Camel album at all. I struggle to get past their first four.


Random is quite a good way to describe Tormato. There's no structure or flow to the album. It sounds like a collection of songs which perhaps weren't good enough for GFTO.

While I don't quite agree with you because I think there's the genesis of some really good tracks on Tormato, I just think the album was rushed in the studio and I get the vibe that Rick Wakeman lost interest during the recording and left the other musicians to their own devices in the studio.
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Yes  Tomato 
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