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    Posted: June 18 2020 at 00:42
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Great track by Fripp and KC...not their best though ............

and Bill Murray is a god.




Fripp and Bill Murray are both gods. And can I throw in Frank Zappa. He and Fripp both incredibly gifted artists without who would we even have prog rock?
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

While I prefer melodic players such as latimer, Fripp can probably dunk on any guitarist on the planet when it comes to that super windy picking style hes known for.

He probably can, but I really don't like his guitar playing one bit. I've listened to Fracture and I really don't enjoy it at all.

Give me Hackett, Rothery, Gilmour, as well as the one and only Andrew Latimer, any day of any week.
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Here's Robert and Toyah performing (and dancing to) Fracture. <chuckle>
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While I prefer melodic players such as latimer, Fripp can probably dunk on any guitarist on the planet when it comes to that super windy picking style hes known for.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Larkstongue41 Larkstongue41 wrote:

Fracture is a notoriously difficult piece for guitar players. Fripp himself said it was "impossible" to play in a 2016 interview.
Not impossible for this chap.


Not a particularly good rendition, and not played with a guitar pick doing cross picking, as Fripp did.

Watch the series "Failure to Fracture" to better understand the complexities of playing it.
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Robert Fripp is a genious guitarrist and composer, no doubt. A God? Depends who you are asking.
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Sometimes God hides... Wink

After scratching my head for 15 minutes, I just cannot think of another song/artist similar to Fracture.

Pretty unique stuff!

Except... this, of course:



BTW, this version with re-recorded (and real) drums is much better than the 2000's version on V-drums, IMO.


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He's not a god. He's a mad scientist. I actually heard a radio dj call him that once. 
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I like the song quite a lot, I would call it marvelous......but in noway is Fripp a god
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Great track by Fripp and KC...not their best though ............

and Bill Murray is a god.
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I once saw a video clip of Fripp playing the guitar bridge to Fracture, with Bruford playing "drums" on the back of a wooden chair.  It might have been filmed in a hotel room.  

Bruf's "clickety-clack" playing was remarkable, and perfectly in sync with Bob's playing! 

I know Bob personally, he is no God and would not like being discussed in those terms.  However, he ranks as one of the most inventive and creative musical geniuses of history, up there with the big names like Mozart, Beethoven, Bartok etc. IMHO.  

He invented his own guitar tuning (new standard tuning) because he found the old E-A-D-G-B-E tuning to be "limiting" and "arbitrary."  He applied advanced jazz techniques like cross-picking and chordal shapes to rock music, which was (at the time) very much based upon American Blues concepts.  In the 1980s, he brought out the Roland GR-300 guitar synth to the masses in "Discipline," and was a pioneer in guitar sound looping (Frippertronics and Soundscapes). The list could go on.  

Did he write the best, most beautiful songs in the prog universe?  Nah, probably not, except for a few like "Starless."  Did he shake the music world, numerous times?  No doubt.  Thanks, Bob!  
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Its semi-sequel "FraKctured" from TCOL is equally daunting on guitar (IMHO), both as a guitarist for over 35 years and having seen Crim perform FraKctured live several times.   

Fracture is fabulous though, quite astonishing considering when it was recorded.
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Fracture is very good, but still down the list of his best material. Starless remains the pinnacle for me.
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Definitely the highlight of SABB, though not my favourite KC piece.
Fripp is incredible, but no ‘God’.
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I like Fracture but it isn't even in my top 10 fave KC songs right now.
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IMO one of the best and most dramatic prog pieces ever, always thought of it as a prog school. It contains a rare balance between meticulous writing and free playing, Starting with the arrangements and masterful ideas, From the drumming to Fripp's phenomenal guitars and Wetton's brilliant bass lines, it's in a league of its own.
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Originally posted by Larkstongue41 Larkstongue41 wrote:

Fracture is a notoriously difficult piece for guitar players. Fripp himself said it was "impossible" to play in a 2016 interview.
Not impossible for this chap.
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Fracture is a notoriously difficult piece for guitar players. Fripp himself said it was "impossible" to play in a 2016 interview.
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