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Poll Question: Which Yes Record Do You Prefer?
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I'm waiting for the Tormato  vs. Open Your Eyes poll. LOL
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90125
Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Originally posted by stewe stewe wrote:

Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I'm not particularly fond of either, though I agree they're not bad albums. For some reason, I don't find the Yes magic in either album.


I know what you are saying---but voted for the album that has one of a kind genius (who can do anything) on guitar---Howe. Even if the music isn't 100% magic its always great to hear him play.

I love Steve Howe's guitar, from The Yes Album to Relayer, these are among my favorite guitar albums of all time, I love the feeling, the tone, but..... as a guitarist myself, I disagree he can do anything with guitar. On the other hand, especially in later period (80s and on..) he is quite tedious, not inventive anymore (he is obviously in it only for money), his live playing is often sloppy and generally he is stuck mostly in his Chet Atkins's (albeit upgraded) country-tinged guitar. He cannot play clear fast staccato or adjust himself for heavier styles. He is versatile in terms of changing plethora of different string instruments but not much in style range. Technically he is overrated imo, his parts are not difficult to master (although his tone and writing style in early period are still very unique).



Upgraded from Chet Atkins? Yikes! Chet was the man! Itís true though that if youíre a Steve Howe fan, you essentially dig country. You just may not realize it yet.      There is much common ground amongst Chet Atkins, Mark Knopfler, Les Paul, Mary Ford, and Steve Howe. Itís not really the country music of today, which Iím sorry - I donít really like much of it. But, Chet Atkins, Les Paul, and Mary Ford were huge trailblazers on guitar, and they blended numerous styles, including classical, bluegrass, jazz, folk, Spanish, etc. It was at times, a very complex version of country. There is a video of Les Paul and Chet Atkins trading licks on a talk show. Fast arpeggios and all sorts of fun. Chet could even pull off Recuerdos de la Alhambra in concert, which is an extremely difficult tremolo picking piece. Steve Howe was not an upgrade of Chet Atkins. Sheeeeesh. They might have come from a similar place, but (country music fans) each was great in his own way.

Link to Les Paul and Chet Atkins

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90125 (AOR) v Drama (Buggles buggered), I will go for the one with Howe on...both albums will never pollute my eardrums whilst I have so much better yes to spin...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2020 at 12:05
Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

Originally posted by stewe stewe wrote:

Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I'm not particularly fond of either, though I agree they're not bad albums. For some reason, I don't find the Yes magic in either album.


I know what you are saying---but voted for the album that has one of a kind genius (who can do anything) on guitar---Howe. Even if the music isn't 100% magic its always great to hear him play.

I love Steve Howe's guitar, from The Yes Album to Relayer, these are among my favorite guitar albums of all time, I love the feeling, the tone, but..... as a guitarist myself, I disagree he can do anything with guitar. On the other hand, especially in later period (80s and on..) he is quite tedious, not inventive anymore (he is obviously in it only for money), his live playing is often sloppy and generally he is stuck mostly in his Chet Atkins's (albeit upgraded) country-tinged guitar. He cannot play clear fast staccato or adjust himself for heavier styles. He is versatile in terms of changing plethora of different string instruments but not much in style range. Technically he is overrated imo, his parts are not difficult to master (although his tone and writing style in early period are still very unique).



Upgraded from Chet Atkins? Yikes! Chet was the man! Itís true though that if youíre a Steve Howe fan, you essentially dig country. You just may not realize it yet.      There is much common ground amongst Chet Atkins, Mark Knopfler, Les Paul, Mary Ford, and Steve Howe. Itís not really the country music of today, which Iím sorry - I donít really like much of it. But, Chet Atkins, Les Paul, and Mary Ford were huge trailblazers on guitar, and they blended numerous styles, including classical, bluegrass, jazz, folk, Spanish, etc. It was at times, a very complex version of country. There is a video of Les Paul and Chet Atkins trading licks on a talk show. Fast arpeggios and all sorts of fun. Chet could even pull off Recuerdos de la Alhambra in concert, which is an extremely difficult tremolo picking piece. Steve Howe was not an upgrade of Chet Atkins. Sheeeeesh. They might have come from a similar place, but (country music fans) each was great in his own way.

Yes! HUGE! Jerry Reed kicked ass, too! He was a beast. Chet was a monster, though, with that mind-blowing sweep-picking!
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In a way both could be considered fake Yes. However, I voted for Drama because it's closer to my favorite kind of Yes. However, 90125 was the first one I bought and really paid attention to so it's kind of special to me. However, it's not really representative of what Yes was known for initially. I still like it but it's mostly a nostalgia thing for me these days(same with the first Asia album).
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Originally posted by questionsneverknown questionsneverknown wrote:

Drama is up there with my favourite albums by Yes.
I liked Beverly Hills 90210/90125/OU812 at the time, but don't tend to listen to it much these days.

Dude I was literally thinking of that exact Van Halen album earlier, and how I can NEVER REMEMBER the damn numbers, lmao.

Good to see so many votes for DramaWink

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Drama.
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Another easy one.

Drama 
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
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Drama any day of the week. 
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90125
90125
90125
90125
90125
90125!!!

Not fake Yes!

There. I think I countered them all. I love Drama (see other thread) but 90125 kicks booty!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2020 at 17:15
Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

90125
90125
90125
90125
90125
90125!!!

Not fake Yes!

There. I think I countered them all. I love Drama (see other thread) but 90125 kicks booty!

No, just the one the really young people like. LOL
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

90125
90125
90125
90125
90125
90125!!!

Not fake Yes!

There. I think I countered them all. I love Drama (see other thread) but 90125 kicks booty!


No, just the one the really young people like.†LOL


Maybe they need to make some Changes. It Can Happen you know! Well, Iíll Leave It at that.
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Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:


Maybe they need to make some Changes. It Can Happen you know! Well, Iíll Leave It at that.


I don't know. Does It Really Happen?
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It happens to everyone eventually (well played, though )
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Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

90125
90125
90125
90125
90125
90125!!!

Not fake Yes!

There. I think I countered them all. I love Drama (see other thread) but 90125 kicks booty!


No, just the one the really young people like. LOL


Maybe they need to make some Changes. It Can Happen you know! Well, Iíll Leave It at that.

Does it really happen though? 
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It can happen today!
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Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

It can happen today!

But only if you shoot high and aim low.
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It looks like Iím Running out of options.
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Now Hold On. I Am Waiting for this to end. It's like an Endless Dream.
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