Yes - Drama vs 90125

I prophesy disaster wrote: This is a tough one. Although I've been familiar with 90125 since it was released, I've only been familiar with Drama for a few years. Thus, while Drama was surprisingly different as well as quite impressive, 90125 has a level of familiarity that is hard to overlook. I have always liked 90125, and feel that it is somewhat underrated by prog fans. So, I won't vote yet and will take some time to consider this.

Edited by I prophesy disaster - July 14 2020 at 07:56

Would've voted for 90125 from when I heard it the first time until a few years ago, but now Drama appeals to me much more.

90125. Drama is not bad, but most tracks are quite hit and miss.

Edited by Machinemessiah - July 14 2020 at 15:32

Psychedelic Paul wrote: chopper wrote: Psychedelic Paul wrote: I'm voting for the Drama album, because I think Trevor "Buggles" Horn did a very  commendable job of stepping into Jon Anderson's shoes for one album, despite what some of the critics said.    It's a good album and I agree Horn did a good job, although he did come unstuck at the live shows - I remember him going red in the face trying to reach some of the higher notes of the Anderson songs during the tour. Yes, I recall Trevor Horn occasionally got unfairly booed at by the audience during the Drama tour.   Maybe that's why Trevor Horn went back to being a producer - and a very good one too - after the drama of the Drama tour.

Blacksword wrote: M27Barney wrote: Is this poll symptomatic of the a switch of the demographic? I'd much rather rate supposedly derivative copy symphonic prog than the eighties sh*te that seems to have an uncomfortably large fanbase in the new demograph.... No. I've been here donkeys years, and there's always been some who appreciate 80's 'sh*te' Me included. With the exception of Invisible Touch

With a handle like Machine Messiah, I think we can all pretty much guess who you voted for. LOL!!
I still think you should give 90125 a spin sometime. It’s always good to branch out a bit. Of course, it is not the Yes that you know, just like the Howe version was so different from the Banks version. If you’re eating a carob bar, and if you expect it to taste like chocolate, you’ll be disappointed. But, if you enjoy it for what it is - carob - you might find that you like it. Trevor Rabin is not Steve Howe, never will be, and really shouldn’t be expected to sound anything like him. He sounds exactly like who he is, and good on him for staying true to himself. I do think they should have changed the band’s name, which is what was supposed to have happened. Rabin originally signed on with Cinema, not Yes. So, just think of it as “Cinema” and forget the Yes name altogether. On another note, I’ve discovered many recommendations on PA, and have really been enjoying them.

Jaketejas wrote: With a handle like Machine Messiah, I think we can all pretty much guess who you voted for. LOL!! I still think you should give 90125 a spin sometime. It’s always good to branch out a bit. Of course, it is not the Yes that you know, just like the Howe version was so different from the Banks version. If you’re eating a carob bar, and if you expect it to taste like chocolate, you’ll be disappointed. But, if you enjoy it for what it is - carob - you might find that you like it. Trevor Rabin is not Steve Howe, never will be, and really shouldn’t be expected to sound anything like him. He sounds exactly like who he is, and good on him for staying true to himself. I do think they should have changed the band’s name, which is what was supposed to have happened. Rabin originally signed on with Cinema, not Yes. So, just think of it as “Cinema” and forget the Yes name altogether. On another note, I’ve discovered many recommendations on PA, and have really been enjoying them.

 

Machinemessiah wrote: Jaketejas wrote: With a handle like Machine Messiah, I think we can all pretty much guess who you voted for. LOL!! I still think you should give 90125 a spin sometime. It’s always good to branch out a bit. Of course, it is not the Yes that you know, just like the Howe version was so different from the Banks version. If you’re eating a carob bar, and if you expect it to taste like chocolate, you’ll be disappointed. But, if you enjoy it for what it is - carob - you might find that you like it. Trevor Rabin is not Steve Howe, never will be, and really shouldn’t be expected to sound anything like him. He sounds exactly like who he is, and good on him for staying true to himself. I do think they should have changed the band’s name, which is what was supposed to have happened. Rabin originally signed on with Cinema, not Yes. So, just think of it as “Cinema” and forget the Yes name altogether. On another note, I’ve discovered many recommendations on PA, and have really been enjoying them.   Hehe.. yeah I wanted to choose a song for a name that wasn't one of the 'main', most well-known ones, but maybe an underrated jewel (I know MM is well known and appreciated); in the spirit of this Site, that is to meet, sometimes little-known stuff. I appreciate your post, really. I kept thinking maybe <span style="display: inline !imant; : none; : rgb255, 255, 255; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-family: Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-trans: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">my post </span>could come across not so well to some (not saying you)..  sorry for that! I totally hear you, and will apply your advice, though I think I do it somehow..  'Owner of a Lonely Heart' for example I find it superb, no mixed feelings there or anything. The guitar is fantastic. By the way, with Genesis I was the same before..  but somehow I found it easier with the Collins' era (I liked Phil Collins as a solo artist before meeting Genesis), but with Yes, a specially dear to me, it has always been harder (with Genesis are only the early 80's ones, I mean not much further, it is true that I'm anchored mainly in the 70's..   it just is the style and spirit I love). I'm a long-time great fan of Howe by the way, and can play some of his pieces on guitar. Some time ago I learnt about Chet Atkins too. I liked very much what you said and the vid you posted about him.

It is no small feat to play Steve Howe’s music. I wish I could pull off some of his more difficult finger-style picking, and I will have to keep at it. Our little band covered Long Distance Runaround back in the day, but that is one of their easier pieces. It was great fun to double the harmony with a second guitarist. The Yes Album and Fragile appeal to me the most from that era, although I realize most folks here prefer CTTE. It can be unsettling when a band changes its sound or replaces members of the group. Sometimes, the magic seems to disappear altogether, but other times something fresh can come out of it. Still, other times people will tell me how great the new sound is but it will do nothing for me. It is funny how music appeals to different people. Anyway, I enjoy reading these polls if not just to see how out of touch I am . I have an album called Neck and Neck with Chet Atkins and Mark Knopfler and it is a hoot. It is rare when I buy country albums and they are usually those early greats that I mentioned before. The jazz guitarists from time past were equally brilliant. There are just a few videos of Django Reinhardt out there, but they are well worth watching, especially considering that, like Phil Keaggy, his hand was damaged. Wes Montgomery is another favorite, and while people always mention Hendrix (and rightly so), Montgomery was another who left us way too soon. Cheers!

For me it would be Machine Messiah vs Owner of a Lonely Heart... Drama it is.