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Poll Question: Is there an unfairly unloved KC studio album?
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    Posted: August 03 2020 at 03:51
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

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Islands, easily. It is their best. All their other albums from the debut to Discipline, with the exception of ItWoP, are prone to overrating.


What is it about Islands that does it for you? I'll admit I'm a newcomer to the album, and despite being a jazz, freeform, and experimental lover - very little of the content on the record "clicked" with me. It felt disconnected in the wrong ways to me, but that's just opinion of course (it all is).


It is a matter of taste or opinion indeed and tastes tend to differ. For me, Islands is the only KC album of which I really like all the tracks. Other KC albums have tracks that are hard to get into, leave me cold or are just meh.


Totally cool! Oddly enough I feel Islands is the only one that isn't consistent enough for me. I'm willing to bet I'll be back in a year ranting and raving about how underrated it is, lol Cool.


Strangely Islands is one of my fave KC albums, partly on account of its consistency.

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It has to be between Poseidon, Beat and The Power to Believe. I think I'll go with ITWOP.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2020 at 02:11
difficult choice

my first temptation was to choose Lizard, because plenty of people (casual fans on sites like RYM) dislike the "jazz thing" in there, but I thought that Poseidon might be it, but TBH, there is only half an album to be judged (the flipside), since the first side is a repeat of Court.

Certainly isn't Island (which I find over-rated >> it gets higher rating than Lizard and Poseidon on RYM).
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Beat is their worst (along with Contrukction) so it cannot be under-rated either.

so no vote
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Originally posted by Braka1 Braka1 wrote:

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ITWOP
when compared to the overrated debut Wink


I wonder what the reputation of those albums would be had the order of release been reversed.

Seems to me ''Court' would be the stronger album regardless, but would it be regarded as self-derivative, and 'Poseidon as' the great prog monolith?

 

Well I just reviewed it and rated it 3 stars while it's ratings in PA is 3.8. So to me it's overrated, not underrated. The two albums either side of it I would rate 5 stars. It's all upstairs between the ears. Different people see different things in the music. As much as I try I don't see ITWOP as one of their best albums.
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Islands.
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Originally posted by Braka1 Braka1 wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

ITWOP
when compared to the overrated debut Wink


I wonder what the reputation of those albums would be had the order of release been reversed.

Seems to me ''Court' would be the stronger album regardless, but would it be regarded as self-derivative, and 'Poseidon as' the great prog monolith?

 

There are several parts on ITWoP that sound more or less identical to parts from ITCoTCK; so much so I had to check to make sure I had the correct disc in.

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I picked "Thrak."  Their Chicago concert was sublime...seeing the band singing "People" was spine-tingling!  
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Islands or In the Wake of Poseidon. Criminally underrated records
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

ITWOP
when compared to the overrated debut Wink


I wonder what the reputation of those albums would be had the order of release been reversed.

Seems to me ''Court' would be the stronger album regardless, but would it be regarded as self-derivative, and 'Poseidon as' the great prog monolith?

 

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Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Islands, easily. It is their best. All their other albums from the debut to Discipline, with the exception of ItWoP, are prone to overrating.

What is it about Islands that does it for you? I'll admit I'm a newcomer to the album, and despite being a jazz, freeform, and experimental lover - very little of the content on the record "clicked" with me. It felt disconnected in the wrong ways to me, but that's just opinion of course (it all is).

It is a matter of taste or opinion indeed and tastes tend to differ. For me, Islands is the only KC album of which I really like all the tracks. Other KC albums have tracks that are hard to get into, leave me cold or are just meh.

Totally cool! Oddly enough I feel Islands is the only one that isn't consistent enough for me. I'm willing to bet I'll be back in a year ranting and raving about how underrated it is, lol Cool.

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ITWOP
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Islands or Starless......chose Islands.

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Islands or Starless......chose Islands.
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It's either ItWoP, Islands or ToaPP and maybe, just maybe Starless.
I'll go with Poseidon.
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Islands, easily. It is their best. All their other albums from the debut to Discipline, with the exception of ItWoP, are prone to overrating.

What is it about Islands that does it for you? I'll admit I'm a newcomer to the album, and despite being a jazz, freeform, and experimental lover - very little of the content on the record "clicked" with me. It felt disconnected in the wrong ways to me, but that's just opinion of course (it all is).

It is a matter of taste or opinion indeed and tastes tend to differ. For me, Islands is the only KC album of which I really like all the tracks. Other KC albums have tracks that are hard to get into, leave me cold or are just meh.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I'll have to think about this. It's certainly not the first one, LTIA or red or even discipline. 

So basically it's none of the red ones.
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I'll have to think about this. It's certainly not the first one, LTIA or red or even discipline. 
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Most of the ratings are spot on in my book, some rated higher or lower than I would, but usually not by much. I voted Starless because it is perhaps my favorite, but Beat and Power to Believe are also similarly underrated. Ying Yang
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Judging by the fact that it currently has a rating here of only 4.63, I'd say it's In The Court of the Crimson King...Wink
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