Is PF - DSotM psychedelic? |
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Blacksword
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I'm not really even certain what 'psychedelic' means, but in music, for me personally, it seems to indicate a quirky, whimsy, eccentric, colourful and slightly childish approach, which aims to emulate the personal filter stripping properties of hallucinogenic drugs, laying bare ones inner child, wide eyed and innocently fascinated by the world around them...all the while wearing a ridiculous shirt.
So, no I don't regard DSOTM as psychedelic. It's a dark examination of mortality and sanity among other things. |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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My favorite overrated album of all time from this website - it's definitely progressive rock!
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VianaProghead
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"Dark Side of the Moon" has nothing to do to "The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn" in terms of psychedelic. So, definitely, "Dark Side of the Moon" has very few to do with psychedelic music, in my opinion. Besides, only "The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn" is a totally psychedelic album. Even "A Saucerful Of Secrets" isn't a pure psychedelic album. It's more a transitional album. The pure psychedelism on Pink Floyd's music ended with the departure of Syd Barrett from the band, I think.
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Deadwing
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More space rock than psychedelic, maybe? At least for me most tracks fits in that category except The Great Gig In the Sky and Money.
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Psychedelic Paul
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I'd go along with that. All of Pink Floyd's albums sound more Space Rock than Psychedelic Rock to me in my hippie universe.
Edited by Psychedelic Paul - August 11 2020 at 04:24 |
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I see a strong distinction between space rock and psychedelic rock, which is why I asked about Hawkwind earlier. To me, Hawkwind are the quintessential space rock group, but they don't sound psychedelic to me. By contrast, Nektar - Journey To The Centre Of The Eye sounds both space rock and psychedelic. Thus, I ask whether Dark Side of the Moon is psychedelic without any mention of space rock. |
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FatherChristmas
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I think Dark Side is psychedelic, space rock and prog at the same time, if that's possible. So I voted yes.
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Manuel
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Since they started as a Sychedelic band, they always had some inflluences on their music, but gradually they evolved into a very ditincit sound, combining blues ans synphonic influences with it.
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Psychedelic Paul
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I always think of Space Rock and Psychedelic Rock as being entirely separate too, even though they're both lumped together as one music genre on ProgArchives. In the same way as Hawkwind are the quintessential Space Rock band without sounding psychedelic, The Doors are the quintessential Psychedelic Rock band without sounding spacey.
Edited by Psychedelic Paul - August 11 2020 at 06:32 |
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FatherChristmas
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It's probably because of Pink Floyd that Psychedelic and Space are mixed.
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"Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp
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Awesoreno
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Very interesting to see so many opinions presented like facts. The Internet is great.
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The Dark Elf
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Thanks for presenting another Internet stereotype: those who have utterly nothing worthwhile to offer, but still feel the necessity to type.
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Is that good or bad?
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Psychedelic Paul
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Works for me! We were asked to offer our opinions on a classic prog album, and we offered them.
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Awesoreno
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Haha, you got me! It brings out the "best" in all of us. Anyway, I did actually give my thoughts on the matter at hand earlier in the thread. I'm just not a fan of saying it like "PF is..." or "PF is not..." when this is something so subjective.
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octopus-4
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I was just thinking to "On The Run". Absolutely psych, as well as the clocks on "Time". "Us and Them" is Psych enough, too IMO. |
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Everything everyone has to say is opinion. At long last people are getting their confidence back after years of having some belligerent attacking "opinion" as "opinion!". Good to see people being forthright and not having to say imo etc. Just as it was good to see PF progressing psychedelia. Didn't they do well. Echoes is equally as structured. All the sections are superbly cued and paced. Psych is more improv than prog is. PF couldn't jam out too much on Dark Side - no room. Doesn't stop some from sl*g.ing off Money for this function even when that it also equally structured, precise and thus able to be expanded live. IMVVVVHO....
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