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Barclay James Harvest vs The Enid
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Poll Question: Which band do you prefer?
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

BJH is hardly lesser known, though they are definitely frequently mocked and unappreciated here.  Enid leaves me cold, while BJH was one of the first serious bands I got into in the mid 70s

Compared to the usual suspects as well as Gentle Giant, Focus, Renaissance, Nektar, Camel, VDGG, Magma, etc they are. I would put them just below Strawbs and Eloy in popularity.

In the 70s, BJH were huge in Germany and the continent, and also had 7 or 8 top 40 albums in the UK, where they were more of a cult band. Overall they were much bigger than Magma, VDGG, Nektar, Eloy and probably Gentle Giant. Some of those bands have become far more popular now than at that time.

The Enid were THE cult band and I love them as much as I love BJH.
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hell's frozen over, I've voted for Barclay James Harmless. 
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I recall Robert John Godfrey of The Enid once worked with Barclay James Harvest and I like both bands equally, so I vote "Both Equally" Smile

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I recall Robert John Godfrey of The Enid once worked with Barclay James Harvest and I like both bands equally, so I vote "Both Equally" Smile

Yes, he did the orchestration on "Once Again" which is one of my favourite albums but despite that I voted for The Enid for a better overall catalogue.
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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:


The Enid were THE cult band 

They are still going, you know?
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RJG once claimed that BJH would have been as big as Pink Floyd if he stayed with them. That's some major ego there...

As I said earlier in the thread, I prefer The Enid based on what I've heard. I didn't case a vote as I don't now much BJH, but The Enid seem to be far more..er 'interesting' and original sounding than BJH. Got In the Region of the Summer Stars vinyl re-issue recently, and that's magnificent. IMO.
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I like The Enid, but I love BJH. Apparently the split between BJH and Robert Godfrey was pretty acrimonious. Basically he thought he should be part of the band (for which you can read, run the band) and the band saw him as an arranger that was trying to take over. I found what The Enid were doing by fusing classical and contemporary music was interesting but, for me, another occasion prog arranger, Simon Jeffes, did a far more interesting and creative job with Penguin Cafe Orchestra, who've made some of the most genuinely beautiful music on the planet.
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Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

I like The Enid, but I love BJH. Apparently the split between BJH and Robert Godfrey was pretty acrimonious. Basically he thought he should be part of the band (for which you can read, run the band) and the band saw him as an arranger that was trying to take over. I found what The Enid were doing by fusing classical and contemporary music was interesting but, for me, another occasion prog arranger, Simon Jeffes, did a far more interesting and creative job with Penguin Cafe Orchestra, who've made some of the most genuinely beautiful music on the planet.


You've engaged my interest :-)

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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

I like The Enid, but I love BJH. Apparently the split between BJH and Robert Godfrey was pretty acrimonious. Basically he thought he should be part of the band (for which you can read, run the band) and the band saw him as an arranger that was trying to take over. I found what The Enid were doing by fusing classical and contemporary music was interesting but, for me, another occasion prog arranger, Simon Jeffes, did a far more interesting and creative job with Penguin Cafe Orchestra, who've made some of the most genuinely beautiful music on the planet.


You've engaged my interest :-)

Listening to Penguin Cafe Orchestra now for the first time.

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A little snippet, Simon Jeffes and Geoff Richardson (Caravan etc., being silly as usual)
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Barclay James Harvest, when I first heard them in Switzerland with the Bern Symphony Orchestra on 22 May 1971 with  She Said; Mocking Bird; Galadriel; The Sun Will Never Shine; Too Much On Your Plate; The Poet; Dark Now My Sky  listed on their website  https://www.bjharvest.co.uk/concert1.htm#1971
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